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04-04-2007, 02:40 PM
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so... the only way to break the stereotype that only thin women are beautiful is to create a new stereotype sending the message that only plus sized women are beautiful? doesn't this just separate plus sized and not plus sized women even more?
the fact is that some people find thin women attractive and some people find plus sized women attractive. the two groups will probably never meet and there is nothing wrong with having more than one standard of beauty because everyone is different and everyone likes different things. but don't try and pass it off as if you're breaking stereotypes.
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I know, right - don't we already have ENOUGH plus-size pageants televised worldwide??
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04-04-2007, 02:42 PM
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wake up. that wasn't my main point.
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It seemed like you were trying to say that OMGZ TEH PLUS SIZE ONEZ WILL BE TEH HOT AND TEH SKINNY GIRLS WILL NOT BECAUSE OF TEH PAGEANT!!!11!!!!!!eleventy-one!!!11!
One pageant is not going to break any stereotypes or suddenly make plus the new thing. In fact, here on GC will probably be the most talk this story even gets.
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04-04-2007, 02:48 PM
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It seemed like you were trying to say that OMGZ TEH PLUS SIZE ONEZ WILL BE TEH HOT AND TEH SKINNY GIRLS WILL NOT BECAUSE OF TEH PAGEANT!!!11!!!!!!eleventy-one!!!11!
One pageant is not going to break any stereotypes or suddenly make plus the new thing. In fact, here on GC will probably be the most talk this story even gets.
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can someone design a emoticon with a smilie wearing a cape, so i can insert it to say that AlphaFrog is my hero?
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04-04-2007, 03:09 PM
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Why are you all being so mean to each other? What the heck is up with "eleventy-one"?
I took the comment to mean that the poster doesn't think separate categories of beauty are that much of an advancement compared with the idea of celebrating individual beauty of different types and sizes in the same pageant.
I like the idea of a plus sized pageant, but I don't know how much I'd like the idea of being told that I was pretty for a fat girl, which is kind of how it will play, I'm afraid.
But I salute the Omegas for doing something different and recognizing the beauty of a group of women who might typically get overlooked. The four hour practices seem a little intense, but they are going to be perfect in the final show, I'm guessing.
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04-04-2007, 03:20 PM
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I took the comment to mean that the poster doesn't think separate categories of beauty are that much of an advancement compared with the idea of celebrating individual beauty of different types and sizes in the same pageant.
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Let's face it though - if you put a size 0 and a size 20 in a pageant together, the size 0 could resemble a bloodhound after getting run over by a truck, and she's still probably going to win (especially if there's a swimsuit competition). Yes, there are some individuals that prefer plus-size, but they are greatly outnumbered by those who buy into the notion that slim=pretty.
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04-04-2007, 03:25 PM
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but I don't know how much I'd like the idea of being told that I was pretty for a fat girl
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then don't enter the pagaent... plus size doesn't always equal to fat... If I lacked self esteem and self confidence, forget my body type, I sure as hell wouldn't enter into a pageant., so kudos to the plus sized girls who will be entering the contest and congrats in advance to the winner
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04-04-2007, 05:07 PM
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I like the idea of a plus sized pageant, but I don't know how much I'd like the idea of being told that I was pretty for a fat girl, which is kind of how it will play, I'm afraid.
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I don't believe that's the point at all. It's more like "you're pretty because you're pretty." Making it a plus size pageant simply opens up the experience to women who might not otherwise have an opportunity to participate in such an event. More than that, according to the article, it's an event to celebrate "curvy" women. I'd participate!
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04-04-2007, 05:27 PM
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It's weird what people latched onto in my post. I said I liked the idea of the pageant and I salute the group for having it.
I'm afraid that AlphaFrog's point though is a very real one, and that's the only weakness of having a plus sized pageant: it's the implication that plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, wouldn't be able to compete in most people's minds with the "regular" pageant winners.
I still think the event is a great idea, and I hope it's a success.
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04-04-2007, 05:31 PM
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Let's face it though - if you put a size 0 and a size 20 in a pageant together, the size 0 could resemble a bloodhound after getting run over by a truck, and she's still probably going to win (especially if there's a swimsuit competition). Yes, there are some individuals that prefer plus-size, but they are greatly outnumbered by those who buy into the notion that slim=pretty.
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Amazing, simply, Amazing!
Your preception is just that, Simply Friggen Amazing!
And is just what is your point?
Not everyone is a cookie cutter!
We and they are still just people with feelings who care about the people around them!
So, so they are over sized they are unimportant?
But, you bdo make a good point!
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04-04-2007, 05:37 PM
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Amazing, simply, Amazing!
Your preception is just that, Simply Friggen Amazing!
And is just what is your point?
Not everyone is a cookie cutter!
We and they are still just people with feelings who care about the people around them!
So, so they are over sized they are unimportant?
But, you bdo make a good point!
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I hope you cut yourself shaving........bad.
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04-04-2007, 05:47 PM
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I hope you cut yourself shaving........bad.
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Smooth and I take it YOU are a fellow Greek instead of a jerk off?
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04-04-2007, 05:48 PM
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Smooth and I take it YOU are a fellow Greek instead of a jerk off?
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This doesn't really make sense.
I hope you chip your tooth soon.
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04-04-2007, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga
it's the implication that plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, wouldn't be able to compete in most people's minds with the "regular" pageant winners.
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Plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, generally can't compete with "regular" pageant winners in many people's minds. It's not an implication - it's a fact.
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Last edited by preciousjeni; 04-04-2007 at 05:50 PM.
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04-04-2007, 05:50 PM
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This doesn't really make sense.
I hope you chip your tooth soon.
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So, this still makes you a Moron.
Grow up and be someone impotent!
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04-04-2007, 05:55 PM
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Are you sure they aren't doing it as a subtle joke?
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