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04-04-2007, 02:48 PM
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It seemed like you were trying to say that OMGZ TEH PLUS SIZE ONEZ WILL BE TEH HOT AND TEH SKINNY GIRLS WILL NOT BECAUSE OF TEH PAGEANT!!!11!!!!!!eleventy-one!!!11!
One pageant is not going to break any stereotypes or suddenly make plus the new thing. In fact, here on GC will probably be the most talk this story even gets.
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can someone design a emoticon with a smilie wearing a cape, so i can insert it to say that AlphaFrog is my hero?
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04-04-2007, 03:09 PM
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Why are you all being so mean to each other? What the heck is up with "eleventy-one"?
I took the comment to mean that the poster doesn't think separate categories of beauty are that much of an advancement compared with the idea of celebrating individual beauty of different types and sizes in the same pageant.
I like the idea of a plus sized pageant, but I don't know how much I'd like the idea of being told that I was pretty for a fat girl, which is kind of how it will play, I'm afraid.
But I salute the Omegas for doing something different and recognizing the beauty of a group of women who might typically get overlooked. The four hour practices seem a little intense, but they are going to be perfect in the final show, I'm guessing.
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04-04-2007, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga
I took the comment to mean that the poster doesn't think separate categories of beauty are that much of an advancement compared with the idea of celebrating individual beauty of different types and sizes in the same pageant.
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Let's face it though - if you put a size 0 and a size 20 in a pageant together, the size 0 could resemble a bloodhound after getting run over by a truck, and she's still probably going to win (especially if there's a swimsuit competition). Yes, there are some individuals that prefer plus-size, but they are greatly outnumbered by those who buy into the notion that slim=pretty.
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04-04-2007, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Let's face it though - if you put a size 0 and a size 20 in a pageant together, the size 0 could resemble a bloodhound after getting run over by a truck, and she's still probably going to win (especially if there's a swimsuit competition). Yes, there are some individuals that prefer plus-size, but they are greatly outnumbered by those who buy into the notion that slim=pretty.
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Amazing, simply, Amazing!
Your preception is just that, Simply Friggen Amazing!
And is just what is your point?
Not everyone is a cookie cutter!
We and they are still just people with feelings who care about the people around them!
So, so they are over sized they are unimportant?
But, you bdo make a good point!
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04-04-2007, 05:37 PM
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Amazing, simply, Amazing!
Your preception is just that, Simply Friggen Amazing!
And is just what is your point?
Not everyone is a cookie cutter!
We and they are still just people with feelings who care about the people around them!
So, so they are over sized they are unimportant?
But, you bdo make a good point!
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I hope you cut yourself shaving........bad.
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04-04-2007, 05:47 PM
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I hope you cut yourself shaving........bad.
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Smooth and I take it YOU are a fellow Greek instead of a jerk off?
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04-04-2007, 05:48 PM
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Smooth and I take it YOU are a fellow Greek instead of a jerk off?
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This doesn't really make sense.
I hope you chip your tooth soon.
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04-04-2007, 03:25 PM
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but I don't know how much I'd like the idea of being told that I was pretty for a fat girl
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then don't enter the pagaent... plus size doesn't always equal to fat... If I lacked self esteem and self confidence, forget my body type, I sure as hell wouldn't enter into a pageant., so kudos to the plus sized girls who will be entering the contest and congrats in advance to the winner
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04-04-2007, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga
I like the idea of a plus sized pageant, but I don't know how much I'd like the idea of being told that I was pretty for a fat girl, which is kind of how it will play, I'm afraid.
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I don't believe that's the point at all. It's more like "you're pretty because you're pretty." Making it a plus size pageant simply opens up the experience to women who might not otherwise have an opportunity to participate in such an event. More than that, according to the article, it's an event to celebrate "curvy" women. I'd participate!
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04-04-2007, 05:27 PM
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It's weird what people latched onto in my post. I said I liked the idea of the pageant and I salute the group for having it.
I'm afraid that AlphaFrog's point though is a very real one, and that's the only weakness of having a plus sized pageant: it's the implication that plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, wouldn't be able to compete in most people's minds with the "regular" pageant winners.
I still think the event is a great idea, and I hope it's a success.
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04-04-2007, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga
it's the implication that plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, wouldn't be able to compete in most people's minds with the "regular" pageant winners.
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Plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, generally can't compete with "regular" pageant winners in many people's minds. It's not an implication - it's a fact.
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04-04-2007, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by preciousjeni
Plus sized women, fat-big boned-or-athletic, generally can't compete with "regular" pageant winners in many people's minds. It's not an implication - it's a fact.
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I'm so ready to see that gone. The stereotype that skinny=pretty. When I watched Miss USA two weeks ago I was literally telling my mom that every single one of those girls needed to EAT!!!!! I hate that we live in a society that exemplifies what 75% of the population ISN'T!
The average size of a "normal" woman is, what between 10-12?
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04-04-2007, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ASUADPi
I'm so ready to see that gone. The stereotype that skinny=pretty. When I watched Miss USA two weeks ago I was literally telling my mom that every single one of those girls needed to EAT!!!!! I hate that we live in a society that exemplifies what 75% of the population ISN'T!
The average size of a "normal" woman is, what between 10-12? 
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I don't think that will ever go away. I would guess of the American population, more than 75% of people do not look like Miss FillInTheStateHere.
Doesn't America have a huge obese epidemic? It's one thing to be too skinny and not healthy, and another to be way over what the "ideal" (per the medical standards) weight is and not be healthy. I don't know if that would be a 10-12? I guess it depends on height or something.
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04-04-2007, 08:50 PM
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I'm so ready to see that gone. The stereotype that skinny=pretty. When I watched Miss USA two weeks ago I was literally telling my mom that every single one of those girls needed to EAT!!!!! I hate that we live in a society that exemplifies what 75% of the population ISN'T!
The average size of a "normal" woman is, what between 10-12? 
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I watched Miss USA also, and all those women looked like they ate. Just because they are not over weight does not mean they don't eat. Just because they don't look like the 64% of Americans that are overweight does not mean they need to also look like that. They all looked very healthy to me and I admire them for that. Just because the majority of people are overweight does not mean it's normal or healthy to be overweight. If it was your job or life dream to be Miss USA I'm sure you could devote your time to having their figure too. But everyone has their own priorities and there isn't anything wrong with that either. But don't act like women who are completely healthy are somehow incorrect.
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04-05-2007, 01:10 AM
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The average size of a "normal" woman is, what between 10-12? 
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According to recent studies the average woman is actually a size 14.
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