The Term African American

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Sista

My dear sister Monet, there are people who don't mind my tactics and there are people who can't stand my tactics. I have been to many discussion forums where I am hated and the ones who do not like me make it known for all to see. Funny thing, those who absolutely love me always make it a point to contact me by email or Instant message to let me know that they absolutely love my tactics. It is not a difficult thing to analyze why it is that the ones who like my tactics want to keep it a secret. This is nothing directed towards you, I was just voicing in text my observations. I guess I observe to much and then I have the audacity to voice what I have observed. I am somewhat of a rebelious type. Some people don't like a big mouth Sista who interupts everything. People like to live in comfort zones and comfort zones to me don't make us as black people work hard enough, especially when it comes to each other. We seem as though we can not tolerate each other, yet we have for a long time and still to this day tolerate anyone who is not black. What this say's about us I can only imagine but what it say's to you, I will leave that up to you. Any way, enough said on that...please excuse me.

Moving right along...



For us, I get that you are speaking of decendants of African slaves right? If so, what exactly does our accomplishments define us as? From what I know, or from what I have witnessed, observational wise is this, Black people who are educated and who have achieved something, higher advanced degrees and so forth, they are looked at as to be different from the so called disadvantaged or disenfranchised blacks also, they have been trreated so called better by whites. In other words, they are the so called lucky blacks, in other words, Tokens.

It is just like how it was on the plantation after slavery during share cropping times, all though all blacks came from a family full of African and mullato slaves of African and white origin, if one of the family members got a scholarship to go to a college, most likely the mullato, that black person was treated as if he was a token amongst the whites who accepted him or her due to the fact that he or she was a college student, mind you, during that time, the Universities were white establishments with white educational values, nothing but negativity in those places were being taught about blacks, if anything about blacks was being taught at all.

This is the catch, those same whites did not accept those blacks who did not go to college and aspire a higher education, degrees and so forth.

Question: Just because some blacks got the opportunity to aspire a higher education and so forth etcetera, etcetera, did that make them any different from the other blacks, less? Did that make them altogether a different definition of black? How does education classify black people from other black people? Or how does education classify one to be African American verses Black, Negro or Colored? How did Africans in America go African slaves to Colored, Black, Negro and African American and how does education play a role in the scheme of this all?




Hmmm, that was funny!

First as an elder I am telling you DO A SEARCH. When find my posts, you will realize who I am and what I am about.

The last vocal person who stated their thoughts like these that was worth having a discussion was PHAShriner1906: Search his handle, and you may learn a little bit about this board. Eventually, he got banned. It was about depth.

You also must remember "who's world is it anyways"? What is the Cultural Asili and Utamaawazo behind alot of this?

The direct answer to your question about educational accomplishment lead to definition is "NO", in the "end game" we are NOT in control of our own definition. We take short bits of time 5 years or less, that makes our definition as long as we stay healthy... But when you get into your 40's+ (as I am), all of this discussion becomes irrelevant. I no longer can fight this young persons' fight. Then, if you have children, most of this kind of philosophy, becomes irrelevant if you choose to provide for your children.

Now, "society" honors those who have been classified as with conferring an educational advangtage or can make tons of money (like a prize race horse). On the side of educational advangtage this process is longer and tougher and there is a strong amount of "tokenism" that must take place to get those higher advance/professional degrees. Call it indoctrination or conditioning. If one chooses to speak out most of the time he or she is older and established in life without fear or risk of ostracism from anyone. But, if young, <35 y/o, the domination over these minds is perpetual. Most folks lose there minds in this process and remain tokens to be bartered. The ones who question, lose funding from the government, call it a shakedown.

Now the 'hood may see us "Negros in the Ivory Tower" as ass kissers. Then, there is those in Underground Movement... Knowing the price that would be paid if caught, manuevering like the Mamba or Cobra... When those in the 'hood realize those in the Underground, you hear a different story. About how the "Truth Shall Set You Free"...

Because these facades you see around here are the first line of defense. You may be ready to fight that fight. But "homies" are ready to go nuclear. "Massa" can be soothed enough to reconsider... But all of us are living on borrowed time.

This is how deep some of these ideas go...

[Sista]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

First as an elder I am telling you DO A SEARCH. When find my posts, you will realize who I am and what I am about.

The last vocal person who stated their thoughts like these that was worth having a discussion was PHAShriner1906: Search his handle, and you may learn a little bit about this board. Eventually, he got banned. It was about depth.

You also must remember "who's world is it anyways"? What is the Cultural Asili and Utamaawazo behind alot of this?

The direct answer to your question about educational accomplishment lead to definition is "NO", in the "end game" we are NOT in control of our own definition. We take short bits of time 5 years or less, that makes our definition as long as we stay healthy... But when you get into your 40's+ (as I am), all of this discussion becomes irrelevant. I no longer can fight this young persons' fight. Then, if you have children, most of this kind of philosophy, becomes irrelevant if you choose to provide for your children.

Now, "society" honors those who have been classified as with conferring an educational advangtage or can make tons of money (like a prize race horse). On the side of educational advangtage this process is longer and tougher and there is a strong amount of "tokenism" that must take place to get those higher advance/professional degrees. Call it indoctrination or conditioning. If one chooses to speak out most of the time he or she is older and established in life without fear or risk of ostracism from anyone. But, if young, <35 y/o, the domination over these minds is perpetual. Most folks lose there minds in this process and remain tokens to be bartered. The ones who question, lose funding from the government, call it a shakedown.

Now the 'hood may see us "Negros in the Ivory Tower" as ass kissers. Then, there is those in Underground Movement... Knowing the price that would be paid if caught, manuevering like the Mamba or Cobra... When those in the 'hood realize those in the Underground, you hear a different story. About how the "Truth Shall Set You Free"...

Because these facades you see around here are the first line of defense. You may be ready to fight that fight. But "homies" are ready to go nuclear. "Massa" can be soothed enough to reconsider... But all of us are living on borrowed time.

This is how deep some of these ideas go...

I feel ya' sis. I will do that search and check out what you referred me to check out. I really understand all that you have said even the code
stuff.

Should I have kept that a secret?

By the way, I guess I am in the young crew, I am 33