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03-31-2007, 06:51 PM
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I didn't...even though my 'random state university' was ranked by the Daily Telegraph as one of the top 50 universities in the world. Yes, the renowned and respected Daily Telegraph of the UK. But whatever, state schools are for slackers.
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Eh, I think most of us are smart enough to not put too much weight into what she says. For all we know, she's just pulling that info out of her ass. She is 16, after all.
But I went to a state funded school, so wtf do I know, right? I must be dumb because I had a hard time in college -- probably because my college tuition wasn't as much as my HS one.
I'm curious to see what munchkin03 thinks of the OP's statement. She went to one of the prestigious schools listed earlier. I can't wait to hear how easy she had it.
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03-31-2007, 07:43 PM
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i can understand what the op is saying. i went to one of the best high schools in my state (which was public, yet ranked above several nationally recognized private schools) and struggled to get A's and B's (and even a C in one case). I was also involved in several productions a year as well as worked, so that may have had something to do with it.
when i went to college, however, i was still just as busy, but managed to get a 3.75 my first semester. i didn't have to work nearly as hard as i had in high school. now, my school wasn't the most competitive, but i was in an honors program. i transferred out of that school into a pretty competitive university, and while it's definitely more difficult, it's not nearly as hard as high school was.
a lot of the kids i went to high school with went on to ivy leagues, and the general consensus from people i knew who went to harvard was that it was much harder to get in than to stay in.
sooooo, what she's saying is possible. i just doubt it's very common.
(please excuse the incoherentness. sick. you know how it is.)
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03-31-2007, 08:27 PM
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My high school was a joke; I felt soooo unprepared for college!
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03-31-2007, 09:33 PM
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My school had a program that was actually above the AP/Honors level. We didn't even offer AP or Honors, just the International Baccalaureate program.
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I'm sorry but that is bull. I went to a high school that had both IB and AP and one is not harder than the other, they are simply different. The IB program covers and teaches information differently than AP and offers a unique learning style for above-average students for whom AP may not be a good fit.
I know this is off topic, but I felt compelled to clear this one up.
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04-01-2007, 04:24 AM
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I'm sorry but that is bull. I went to a high school that had both IB and AP and one is not harder than the other, they are simply different. The IB program covers and teaches information differently than AP and offers a unique learning style for above-average students for whom AP may not be a good fit.
I know this is off topic, but I felt compelled to clear this one up.
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Clear what up? That my high school is different from yours and everyone has their own opinion regarding their personal education?
Sorry if I'm being rude here, but it is quite likely you didn't go to my HS and went through our IB program. What I may find challenging or easy is relative to me. I found our IB program to be challenging and felt that it prepared me very well for college.
These are all just opinions! So yeah, sorry if I made it seem otherwise.
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04-01-2007, 11:19 AM
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What I may find challenging or easy is relative to me.
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I think what tinydancer meant is that neither the AP or IB program is inherently better or more difficult than the other, just different. The rigor of each program probably differs from school to school, but it's not like AP is easier across the board (or vice versa).
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04-01-2007, 11:52 AM
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AP/IB
It does depend on thr rigor of the instructor, but the student is reflected in the score that they receive in AP: 5-amazing, 4-very good, 3-passing.....
I don't know much about IB, but from what my friends have said is that it is not the material - it is the other requirements for an IB degree. You have volunteer hour requirements and long papers, etc.
I love being challenged here at my university, but I would make sure you understand what you are getting into with whatever college you go to. My classes average everyone's grade to a C, sometimes a C+ if the prof. thinks the class was an exception to the rule. It does make it feel like that much more of an accomplishment when you get a B+ or and A! ( I will say that I had one prof that said he only gave one A, two B's, 25 C's, 6-7 D's, and the rest F's for a class of 40 people. It was a brutal course too, but everyone has that at least once.)
I was lucky in that about half of the orgs were accepting of me being an engineer and understood that my GPA couldn't really be much higher. I think every chapter wants a good GPA, but good girls are much more important. If you know that your GPA is going to be under a 3.4, be sure that you can explain things. I did a lot on campus and worked through some boards, helping me a lot I think. I suggest finding an org outside of Greek life that makes you want to do well academically when you get to school to help your GPA. Seriously, if it wasn't for the Society of Women Engineers I might have dropped out and changed majors to something less frustrating.....
(It is because of the fewer girls, no one speaks english, amount of work, sexest profs I have encountered, and structure of classes. The sad part about the sexest stuff is that you can't prove anything without a tape and they can't do anything because of tenure.)
FYI: Don't be afraid to change majors, but follow what you want to do!
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04-01-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by VeniceIsSinking
Clear what up? That my high school is different from yours and everyone has their own opinion regarding their personal education?
Sorry if I'm being rude here, but it is quite likely you didn't go to my HS and went through our IB program. What I may find challenging or easy is relative to me. I found our IB program to be challenging and felt that it prepared me very well for college.
These are all just opinions! So yeah, sorry if I made it seem otherwise.
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What I felt the need to clear up was the fact that you touted IB as more difficult than AP. That's simply not true. It doesn't matter that I didn't go to your high school, IB is taught by a uniform standard all over the world -that's one of the things that makes it so wonderful. However that also means that I know exactly how you were taught and can say with full confidence that your experience was no harder than that of a full AP student, it was simply structured differently. I have no doubt that your high school was challenging for you and that's great, I simply didn't want you (or other people) to go around thinking this:
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My school had a program that was actually above the AP/Honors level.
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04-01-2007, 12:20 AM
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Eh, I think most of us are smart enough to not put too much weight into what she says. For all we know, she's just pulling that info out of her ass. She is 16, after all.
But I went to a state funded school, so wtf do I know, right? I must be dumb because I had a hard time in college -- probably because my college tuition wasn't as much as my HS one.
I'm curious to see what munchkin03 thinks of the OP's statement. She went to one of the prestigious schools listed earlier. I can't wait to hear how easy she had it.
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no need to get catty....oh and i don't appreciate the ageist comment...
and i'm not dissing state universities, a lot of them are very good... i'm just dissing the really really random ones (sarcasm).
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