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03-30-2007, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Heather17
Really? I know this was several pages ago but the reality is people have challenged Delta Zeta on the members they wanted to keep and challenged them on their reported criteria for selecting who would be retained. We're all upset for two reasons--because DZ made those women move out when they did (which, agreed, was heinous) AND because of the reported shallowness of the criteria they used.
I am not making judgments on the merits of their case--I am simply saying that I understand what they are trying to protect and I appreciate that they don't want anyone defaming them over their membership review and membership selection.
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It is my understanding that besides the issue of the membership review (how it was conducted and the criteria used to decide who stays and who goes), the University decided to cut ties with DZ because of how they handled the situation post MR. Meaning how they began passing the blame around (putting a good portion of it on the University), not fully answering questions (as they did in the latest interview to USA today), denying "alumna" members their rights as sisters in good standing (financially)and their nixing all media commentary on the subject---which by the way is apparently a decision that has been recinded.
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03-30-2007, 07:41 AM
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Question: Could NPC HQ send them some sort of "cease and desist" letter?
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03-30-2007, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Question: Could NPC HQ send them some sort of "cease and desist" letter?
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Nope. They aren't suing on behalf of NPC or using any of NPC's resources. NPC doesn't have a "quit acting like an asshat" clause.
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03-30-2007, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Nope. They aren't suing on behalf of NPC or using any of NPC's resources. NPC doesn't have a "quit acting like an asshat" clause.
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Now might be a good time to consider adding one. I'm not really sure how they'd word it though.
I'm sure it'd be like one of those "memos" that my boss sends the "company" (aka, my co-worker and I) that are blatantly aimed at one of us, but she sends it to the "company" anyway to pretend like it's not.
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03-30-2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Question: Could NPC HQ send them some sort of "cease and desist" letter?
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I got the feeling NPC was supporting DZ's stance.
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03-30-2007, 11:43 AM
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In your opinion, is this the type of case that might be tried before a jury? Or do you feel it will more likely be tried before a judge.
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Not having read the complaint, I think this is the type of case that never reaches trial. (That's true of the vast majority of cases anyway.) I'll be stunned speechless if this case doesn't either settle or get dismissed long before that point.
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03-30-2007, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by IvySpice
Not having read the complaint, I think this is the type of case that never reaches trial. (That's true of the vast majority of cases anyway.) I'll be stunned speechless if this case doesn't either settle or get dismissed long before that point.
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Thanks. That is my feeling as well. Maybe not so much the stunned speechless part.
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03-30-2007, 12:46 PM
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I'll be stunned speechless if this case doesn't either settle or get dismissed long before that point.
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Or go out on summary judgment.
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03-30-2007, 12:13 PM
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Kudos to the NPC.
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03-30-2007, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TSteven
Kudos to the NPC.
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Yeah, kudos to 26 women for speaking on behalf of 3.8 million women without bothering to ask them what they thought.
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03-30-2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Yeah, kudos to 26 women for speaking on behalf of 3.8 million women without bothering to ask them what they thought.
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Pretty much.
Can anyone find the complaint online yet?
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03-30-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
Yeah, kudos to 26 women for speaking on behalf of 3.8 million women without bothering to ask them what they thought.
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Oh but it's not the NPC's fault! It's never the HQ's fault! Don't know you that the first statement they issued to the NYT was cut and heavily edited because they had a max number words that they could submit? It's the NYT's fault for making the sororities look bad! [/sarcasm]
TSteven, I fail to see how the NPC should be praised for those statements.
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03-30-2007, 03:40 PM
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The NPC statement seems to simply be in support of the right of Delta Zeta to act as they see fit - hardly a ringing endorsement of DZs actions.
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03-30-2007, 03:48 PM
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There were two responsibilities here.
1. Delta Zeta.
2. Depaw.
It seems DZ made a judgement call that was not in the thinking of Depaw.
DZ made a call doing something that no one actually seems to understand and seemed to be in error.
Depaw at the same time feels the have a responisibility to their students.
There for the moment seems to be a two side of the mouth reporting going on!
Depaw-1
Delta Zeta-0
DZ would be well advised for the moment to just leave it alone before the hole gets any depper.
I wonder how many hits the DZ web site has had since this came out!
I do not remember if this has been posted but here is the link to KDs Site on the situation:
http://www.deltazeta.org/pages/conte...appenings.html
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03-30-2007, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by OTW
TSteven, I fail to see how the NPC should be praised for those statements.
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"NPC supports the right of any of our member organizations to exercise policies and procedures regarding membership. Additionally NPC supports the rights of any of our member organizations to issue policies and take actions necessary to uphold the standards of their organization." --- From the March 29th NPC statement
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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
The NPC statement seems to simply be in support of the right of Delta Zeta to act as they see fit - hardly a ringing endorsement of DZs actions.
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SWTXBelle pretty much sums up my feeling on the NPC statement.
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