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03-08-2007, 11:33 AM
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OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?
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It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS
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03-08-2007, 10:53 PM
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[QUOTE=RedefinedDiva;1409831]OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it? [QUOTE]
Depending on the type of abortion she had, tissue could have been removed that was not actually part of the fetus. Most of what is removed in a surgical abortion is not actually the fetus. So the child could be perfectly normal.
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03-08-2007, 12:48 AM
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I just need for people to stop trying to pimp the system. Abortions are not 100% effective! So instead of being angry at the drs maybe she should be made at herself for having no self control in the area of sex!! This angers me because there is much more to this abortion issue than she is even thinking of.
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Pimp the system! The system is flawed anyway. Why do you think docs have to carry malpractice insurance. Have you read about the increase of medical mistakes? What if the child had been born with deformities, because of the botched procedure? (and we don't know that for sure.) Would you be more sympathetic? And why didn't the second doctor realize she was still pregnant?
More self-control! You make it sound as if this woman was wantonly having sex. And even if she was, as a person who has been 45, I know that the body can send off false signals. And guess what wanting sexual intimacy does not stop at age 35!!!!! And the article doesn't go into it, so for all we know the father could be her husband.
Again, imo this is not an abortion issue, it is a botched medical procedure issue. And unfortunately they are made more often then we would like to think.
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03-08-2007, 10:47 AM
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After doing a bit of research, I found documentation from Planned Parenthood that states it is NOT 100% effective. It states directly on their national website that depending upon the procedure she endured (medical or surgical) the effectiveness varies from 92% effective to more than 99% effective.
More than 99% effective does not equal 100% effective.
Also, it was not stated in the article the type of procedure she went through. If it was the abortion pill that 8% of variation could mean high possibility for a child.
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So I guess IMHO if she's going to sue anyone, she should sue the doctor who did not detect the pregnancy, not Planned Parenthood. Especially when they say upfront that certain procedures are far less than 100% effective.
While it's naive to say that a 45-year-old should be abstinent, the truth still remains that abstinent people ironically are NEVER pregnant.  The last I heard of an abstinent woman being pregnant was a few thousand years back...this really nice lady named Mary.
*snickers at Raper as last name* Sorry.
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03-08-2007, 10:58 AM
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I really wish people would stop infringing upon women's rights. She wanted an abortion. PERIOD. She couldn't get the abortion. PERIOD.
This isn't about condoms, the pill, the patch, abstinence, adoption, the stork, or whatever else.
Save the speeches for the MEN who are having sex--usually irresponsibly.
Until then, this 45 yr old grown ass woman wants her money. And I think she should get at least some of it.
Imagine how this discussion would go if it was a 19 yr old woman.
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03-08-2007, 01:36 PM
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It's sad because I can only imagine how this 2yr old child will feel when they reach of age to realize that their mother wanted to abort them AND THEN sued because it didn't work out the way she wanted it to. Very sad, very distrubing
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03-08-2007, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cinammonkisses
It's sad because I can only imagine how this 2yr old child will feel when they reach of age to realize that their mother wanted to abort them AND THEN sued because it didn't work out the way she wanted it to. Very sad, very distrubing
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you know! she'll be one of the many members of prozac nation... sean preston better save her a seat...
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It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS 
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word! does anyone smell a Law and Order SVU episode from this? cause it sho would be good!
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I really wish people would stop infringing upon women's rights. She wanted an abortion. PERIOD. She couldn't get the abortion. PERIOD.
Imagine how this discussion would go if it was a 19 yr old woman. 
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i skimmed the article and overlooked the fact that she was 45 (prime menopausal stages and all) combined with Planned Parenthood saying that abortions are not 100% effective (logically that makes sense, i guess people just dont expect then NOT to be), i can totally seee how the abortion didnt work... or took one of the twins... whatever story we're going on...
but still, she needs to get her $$. allow me to direct you to a similar story: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030204.html
woman in Australia gets $104K for child-rearing costs of her now-7 year old son. convienently this story broke on March 2. hmmm... i mean while $104k isnt nearly what i imagine it costs to have a child, it sho pays for some college.
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03-08-2007, 02:18 PM
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If you know you are in a bad financial situation...
...KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED. You can take all the birth control pills you want, get your tubes tied (I've heard of cases where women still got pregnant),take the shot, use condoms, wear the patch or whatever and still end up pregnant. Why? Because these methods are not 100%.
Now even though I do not agree with abortion, and people do sue for anything these days, she should get some money back since she claims the procedure was done incorrectly. Someone asked this question in another forum and it made me think. If people can sue for failed abortions, then can they also sue for birth control pills that fail and broken condoms too? They might as well.
I wonder what that child's life is going to be like considering the mother was trying to abort it. That child is going to need some serious therapy. Just give the baby up for adoption.
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03-08-2007, 06:42 PM
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word! does anyone smell a Law and Order SVU episode from this?
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Only if she was raped.
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woman in Australia gets $104K for child-rearing costs of her now-7 year old son. convienently this story broke on March 2. hmmm... i mean while $104k isnt nearly what i imagine it costs to have a child, it sho pays for some college.
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03-09-2007, 12:16 AM
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word! does anyone smell a Law and Order SVU episode from this? cause it sho would be good!
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As a Law and Order addict, I must fill you in. There actually is an SVU episode similar to this. But you know there are always some differences. In the Law and Order episode, the child has cerebal palsy. That was a good episode too.
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03-09-2007, 10:33 AM
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How does a doctor NOT see a 20 week old fetus?
And why is she still raising the child if she didn't want it?
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03-09-2007, 10:35 AM
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And why is she still raising the child if she didn't want it?
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03-10-2007, 05:58 PM
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Me too! Me too!
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How does a doctor NOT see a 20 week old fetus?
And why is she still raising the child if she didn't want it?
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EXACTLY
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EXACTLY
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03-08-2007, 12:50 AM
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I mean really. Suing for the cost of raising a child?? I just don't agree. I say sue for whatever the procedure cost and the prenatal care she got once she found out, maybe even for the cost of the therapy she's gonna need after this nightmare. But while it may be a botched procedure that is to blame for her remaining pregnant, it's not the organization's fault for her being pregnant when she couldn't afford it. Most people don't abstain from sex when they can't handle the consequences, but whose fault is that? It just doesn't make sense to me to know full well that sex can and often will lead to a baby, do it, then be mad when a baby is made. Condoms, the pill, the patch, use whatever you want--but if the only way to make C is to put A and B in the same body.....when you put A and B in the same body, don't start suing people when C is made. She could've relinquished the baby to child services after she was born. As hard as it would have been, that would've been an answer to her problem and, since she's so hard up for cash, it would have cost a lot less than the thousands she's about to pay in legal fees. If you can't afford the baby formula at Family Dollar, what does she think the lawyer's gonna cost?!?!?! There's something about that that doesn't sit well with me....fishy as tuna, I say.
Give her what she's due and withold what she's not.
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03-08-2007, 09:56 PM
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While I do agree that this is a botched surgical procedure and she does deserve some compensation, I just can't forget that there is a NEW PERSON to consider now. There is a person here who one day may find out they weren't wanted. Somebody needs to help him/her too. This whole thing just makes my stomach hurt. (no pun intended)
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