Woman Sues for Failed Abortion. Your Thoughts?

BlessedOne04 · #1 03-08-2007, 12:25 AM

I just need for people to stop trying to pimp the system. Abortions are not 100% effective! So instead of being angry at the drs maybe she should be made at herself for having no self control in the area of sex!! This angers me because there is much more to this abortion issue than she is even thinking of.

tld221 · #2 03-08-2007, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BlessedOne04

I just need for people to stop trying to pimp the system. Abortions are not 100% effective! So instead of being angry at the drs maybe she should be made at herself for having no self control in the area of sex!! This angers me because there is much more to this abortion issue than she is even thinking of.

again, lets stop being naive here. ppl are going to have sex. ppl are going to make bad choices in who/when/why/how they have sex. sex is weird, ish happens you know? so instead of blaming a woman for the right to choose to have sex with who/when/why and how and blaming her for the choices she made after that...

that's like telling someone who gets hit by a drunk driver "well maybe if you werent on the road late at night where you KNOW people may be drunkdriving, this may not have happened." are you gonna blame the victim for having no self-control in the desire/need to drive? or are you going to poin the finger at the person who ACTUALLY did wrong?

the failed abortion was NOT this woman's fault. not one but TWO doctors screwed up. not only was the procedure done wrong, but it wasn't even noticed by the next doctor!

let's not even get into the issue of pre-natal care: lots of women are inaccessible to such and given that this women got an abortion (or tried to) at a Planned Parenthood and her reasoning being "financial reasons," i cant imagine her access to proper pre-natal care (ie a trusted doctor she could continuously visit that would track her pregnancy and know her needs) was all that great.

p.s. anyone having a tongue-in-cheek moment about the woman's last name?

christiangirl · #3 03-08-2007, 12:52 AM

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p.s. anyone having a tongue-in-cheek moment about the woman's last name?

HAHAHA, well, I wasn't gonna say anything........

RedefinedDiva · #4 03-08-2007, 01:15 AM

OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?

She could sue off the sheer fact of medical malpractice. I am too tired to read the article and add'l facts tonight, so I'll reserve comment on her suing for the cost of raising a child, etc.

mccoyred · #5 03-08-2007, 11:33 AM

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OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?

It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 · #6 03-08-2007, 12:08 PM

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It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS

wow I never thought of that Soror...hummmm...

Infamous12 · #7 03-08-2007, 12:10 PM

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It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS

Yeah it would be! Wow... that's some serious 'survival of the fittest'!

blackngoldengrl · #8 03-08-2007, 10:53 PM

[QUOTE=RedefinedDiva;1409831]OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it? [QUOTE]

Depending on the type of abortion she had, tissue could have been removed that was not actually part of the fetus. Most of what is removed in a surgical abortion is not actually the fetus. So the child could be perfectly normal.

ladygreek · #9 03-08-2007, 11:24 PM

[QUOTE=blackngoldengrl;1410465][QUOTE=RedefinedDiva;1409831]OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?

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Depending on the type of abortion she had, tissue could have been removed that was not actually part of the fetus. Most of what is removed in a surgical abortion is not actually the fetus. So the child could be perfectly normal.

So is what is removed only done to allow the fetus to be eventually expelled from the body? I thought this was the case of the old technology of a D&C, not the current technology of a surgical abortion.

blackngoldengrl · #10 03-09-2007, 12:01 AM

[QUOTE=ladygreek;1410491][QUOTE=blackngoldengrl;1410465]

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Originally Posted by RedefinedDiva

OK, I'm no abortion expert, but my understanding of the procedure means that the fetus is sucked or scraped out (TMI and quite gross, but I'm getting to a point). Was "something" removed? If so, is the child.... "deformed" in any way? If not and "something" was removed, what the hell was it?
So is what is removed only done to allow the fetus to be eventually expelled from the body? I thought this was the case of the old technology of a D&C, not the current technology of a surgical abortion.

I wasn't as clear as I should have been. The idea is to remove everything, the fetus* and the additional tissue. I was saying that in this case where the abortion failed, what was removed was not any part of the fetus, but rather the supportive tissue.

In general when a surgical abortion is performed, most of what is there is not the fetus, but the supportive tissue. Meaning that the tissue makes up a greater percentage of what is actually removed, since the fetus is still so small at this point.

*depending on gestational age, could be embryo

ladygreek · #11 03-08-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BlessedOne04

I just need for people to stop trying to pimp the system. Abortions are not 100% effective! So instead of being angry at the drs maybe she should be made at herself for having no self control in the area of sex!! This angers me because there is much more to this abortion issue than she is even thinking of.

Pimp the system! The system is flawed anyway. Why do you think docs have to carry malpractice insurance. Have you read about the increase of medical mistakes? What if the child had been born with deformities, because of the botched procedure? (and we don't know that for sure.) Would you be more sympathetic? And why didn't the second doctor realize she was still pregnant?

More self-control! You make it sound as if this woman was wantonly having sex. And even if she was, as a person who has been 45, I know that the body can send off false signals. And guess what wanting sexual intimacy does not stop at age 35!!!!! And the article doesn't go into it, so for all we know the father could be her husband.

Again, imo this is not an abortion issue, it is a botched medical procedure issue. And unfortunately they are made more often then we would like to think.

It is easy to be judgemental of others when you think you are above a particular "sin."

Infamous12 · #12 03-08-2007, 10:47 AM

After doing a bit of research, I found documentation from Planned Parenthood that states it is NOT 100% effective. It states directly on their national website that depending upon the procedure she endured (medical or surgical) the effectiveness varies from 92% effective to more than 99% effective.

More than 99% effective does not equal 100% effective.

Also, it was not stated in the article the type of procedure she went through. If it was the abortion pill that 8% of variation could mean high possibility for a child.

Planned Parenthood Abortions

So I guess IMHO if she's going to sue anyone, she should sue the doctor who did not detect the pregnancy, not Planned Parenthood. Especially when they say upfront that certain procedures are far less than 100% effective.

While it's naive to say that a 45-year-old should be abstinent, the truth still remains that abstinent people ironically are NEVER pregnant.

The last I heard of an abstinent woman being pregnant was a few thousand years back...this really nice lady named Mary.

*snickers at Raper as last name* Sorry.

DSTCHAOS · #13 03-08-2007, 10:58 AM

I really wish people would stop infringing upon women's rights. She wanted an abortion. PERIOD. She couldn't get the abortion. PERIOD.

This isn't about condoms, the pill, the patch, abstinence, adoption, the stork, or whatever else.

Save the speeches for the MEN who are having sex--usually irresponsibly.

Until then, this 45 yr old grown ass woman wants her money. And I think she should get at least some of it.

Imagine how this discussion would go if it was a 19 yr old woman.

cinammonkisses · #14 03-08-2007, 01:36 PM

It's sad because I can only imagine how this 2yr old child will feel when they reach of age to realize that their mother wanted to abort them AND THEN sued because it didn't work out the way she wanted it to. Very sad, very distrubing

tld221 · #15 03-08-2007, 01:44 PM

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It's sad because I can only imagine how this 2yr old child will feel when they reach of age to realize that their mother wanted to abort them AND THEN sued because it didn't work out the way she wanted it to. Very sad, very distrubing

you know! she'll be one of the many members of prozac nation... sean preston better save her a seat...

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It would be interesting to find out that she was pregnant with TWINS

word! does anyone smell a Law and Order SVU episode from this? cause it sho would be good!

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I really wish people would stop infringing upon women's rights. She wanted an abortion. PERIOD. She couldn't get the abortion. PERIOD.

Imagine how this discussion would go if it was a 19 yr old woman.

i skimmed the article and overlooked the fact that she was 45 (prime menopausal stages and all) combined with Planned Parenthood saying that abortions are not 100% effective (logically that makes sense, i guess people just dont expect then NOT to be), i can totally seee how the abortion didnt work... or took one of the twins... whatever story we're going on...

but still, she needs to get her $$. allow me to direct you to a similar story: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06030204.html

woman in Australia gets $104K for child-rearing costs of her now-7 year old son. convienently this story broke on March 2. hmmm... i mean while $104k isnt nearly what i imagine it costs to have a child, it sho pays for some college.