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02-28-2007, 03:05 PM
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i am hesitant to speak for delta phi epsilon, not being a member of dphie. it is my understanding that the npc required them to change their original "triangle" shaped badge by adding the "ribbon" with their motto "esse quam videri" on the bottom of their badge before they were allowed entrance into the npc. supposedly, the npc felt that their original badge was too similar to that of sigma kappa and sigma sigma sigma in shape and appearance. i would imagine that the early members would have had very mixed feelings about having to change something so dear to their founders and their heritage. i cannot imagine having to change my beloved badge by npc directive. once again, i have seen and held an original dphie badge, it was beautiful and had a wonderful simplicity to it. their original badge is extremely rare and very meaningful for the sisterhood of delta phi epsilon. it has been posited that there were less than 1500 of the original dphie badges made. a member of this board whom i shall not name, who is a dphie, could better and more fully explain this required change and how unique and treasured their original badge is. she has personally rescued and preserved several of the very rare, original dphie badges. imagine the badge without the bottom "ribbon" and that is basically what it looked like. again, a member of dphie would be able to tell you the specifics. i know from the wonderful dphie members i know that they love their "new" badge as that is all most of them have ever known. however, many of the older dphie members cherish their older, original badge and rightfully try to preserve such a limited number of something so important to their heritage for their archives and personal collections.
i personally thank the pin collectors who have alerted us to situations such as this. how tragic it would be if one of these rare badges were just melted for scrap. imagine melting that wonderful iota alpha pi badge that origamitulip posted because they are no longer in existence, how sad.
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You rang??? Yes, indeed, you have hit the nail on the head on all points. When NPC "mandated" we change our badge, it might have been a suggestion , no one knows for sure - I wasn't there in 1950! Attached are some photos. From left to right they gain age - the one with the Eta is from Pitt from 1928 only 11 years after founding - pearls were smooshed in and not prong set. I don't think our organization has any resentment for having to change the badge - again we only had 1500 members at the time and we ADDED something important, our motto - so we really didn't "lose" anything.
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02-28-2007, 03:21 PM
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You rang??? Yes, indeed, you have hit the nail on the head on all points. When NPC "mandated" we change our badge, it might have been a suggestion , no one knows for sure - I wasn't there in 1950! Attached are some photos. From left to right they gain age - the one with the Eta is from Pitt from 1928 only 11 years after founding - pearls were smooshed in and not prong set. I don't think our organization has any resentment for having to change the badge - again we only had 1500 members at the time and we ADDED something important, our motto - so we really didn't "lose" anything.

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Very cool, and I can see how it would be confusing with both SK and Tri Sigma without a change. But this is only an addition, not a loss!
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02-28-2007, 03:30 PM
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Thanks, Denise! Would you happen to have a picture of the Alpha Sigma Delta badge?
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02-28-2007, 03:52 PM
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Thanks, Denise! Would you happen to have a picture of the Alpha Sigma Delta badge?
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Yes, from a lady in DZ in TX who sought one for years. She got it on ebay in 2006. Baird's never did have a photo in the 1990 edition.
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02-28-2007, 05:21 PM
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Wow, what was ASD's deal, anyway? I never heard of them before.
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02-28-2007, 05:58 PM
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Wow, what was ASD's deal, anyway? I never heard of them before.
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I think you are in over your head posting questions all over all the boards about badges. Time to sit back and lurk a while, won't you please? For the record, GC+badge collecting is sort of like oil+water. Lots of old discussions about this and no desire to resurrent them (please no bumping of old threads on this!)
Since you asked about ASD, I figured you knew their story as their story is one of the lesser known ones (but again, my DZ friend in TX is assembling a set of all of the badges of groups which became DZ and this one was a doozie to obtain!).
Alpha Sigma Delta (there were other groups by this same name including the group at UC Santa Cruz that just affiliated with KKG - their reason for the letters was symbols of what they stood for and not anything to do with this ASD).
Alpha Sigma Delta founded at the California Berkley as the Iaqua Club in 1919 merged with Lambda Omega in 1932 and added two new chapters. They then merged with Theta Upsilon who merged with DZ.
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02-28-2007, 06:38 PM
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I love this thread...so interesting!
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01-30-2008, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Denise_DPhiE
Alpha Sigma Delta (there were other groups by this same name including the group at UC Santa Cruz that just affiliated with KKG - their reason for the letters was symbols of what they stood for and not anything to do with this ASD).
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Haha sweet! I didn't know we were mentioned in this thread! Yeah, I was really surprised when I found out there a had been another Alpha Sigma Delta. Our reasons for choosing those letters had nothing to do with the Greek meaning. We openly told people the meaning, so I'm not disclosing something secret: Alpha means the first or best, Sigma is the strongest bond in chemistry, and Delta means change (i.e. into an NPC chapter). Lol aren't we original?
I love old badges, though! Kappa has a history book that features some really old badges. *Drooool*
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