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Old 12-24-2006, 03:09 PM
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So AEPhi could have gained 6 new chapters, and SDT 5 new chapters. Looking at this list, though, it seems like there was a bigger problem in the greek system at some of these schools, since several had multiple chapters close in 1970-72, and a few more later in the 70's. It sort of makes sense that there wasn't a merger when you look at it like that.
There were A LOT of problems for the greek system in 1970-72. The elitist attitude of the Greeks was coming into play and was a source of great angst to many a school. Minorities were just starting to go through rush, but most of the houses were very staunch in the all white stands, thus the relevance of Greeks was being questioned on every level. Schools were dealing with sit-ins and major anti-war demonstrations which were more relevant to campus members. During that time, rush numbers for sororities were low.

Hazing was also a big issue for fraternities at the time. There were rules against hazing, but enforcement did not come for quite some time. Again, this brought into play the relevance of the Greek system and their need on campus. The philanthropic work was not in the open, only the partying and hazing were what the community saw.

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Old 12-24-2006, 07:45 PM
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There were A LOT of problems for the greek system in 1970-72. The elitist attitude of the Greeks was coming into play and was a source of great angst to many a school. Minorities were just starting to go through rush, but most of the houses were very staunch in the all white stands, thus the relevance of Greeks was being questioned on every level. Schools were dealing with sit-ins and major anti-war demonstrations which were more relevant to campus members. During that time, rush numbers for sororities were low.

Hazing was also a big issue for fraternities at the time. There were rules against hazing, but enforcement did not come for quite some time. Again, this brought into play the relevance of the Greek system and their need on campus. The philanthropic work was not in the open, only the partying and hazing were what the community saw.

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My mother was on campus from 1969-1973, and she talks about how much change there was in those four years. She was in a sorority, and as freshman, they did not leave the house in anything but skirts, and by the time she was a senior, they were allowed to wear JEANS!

Strangely, I think they were also very good years for the Greeks at Illinois, because the university did not have enough housing for its students, and encouraged as many as possible to go greek. If you look at the houses, the majority have obvious additions that were added in the late 60's or early 70's.
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Old 12-25-2006, 12:35 AM
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I once saw an Iota Alpha Pi pin on ebay, and it was beautiful! It was a diamond very similar to the ADPi diamond, but with a shadow effect, something like <<> . The first part of the shadow was gold, and the rest was strangely enough, azure blue! Then the letters were in gold.

I was convinced it was a colony which became ADPi, until I read its history - just like I thought Alpha Delta Theta would have been a more likely candidate to merge with Alpha Delta Pi than Phi Mu! Thank heavens for Baird's!!

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Old 02-27-2007, 03:22 PM
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I own an IAPi badge and agree with Dream*a*Dream's "merger" description. My version is the older one, sans the roses. I'd love to see a later one.

Dream, do the roses replace the diamonds on the horizontal points?

Dream, why did DPhiE have to change its badge? Can you tell us what it used to look like? The current DPhiE badge is very classy, IMHO.
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:20 PM
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I own an IAPi badge and agree with Dream*a*Dream's "merger" description. My version is the older one, sans the roses. I'd love to see a later one.

Dream, do the roses replace the diamonds on the horizontal points?

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Old 02-27-2007, 09:46 PM
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:52 PM
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That really is a beautiful badge!! I love looking at badges...such a geek I am.

I have a question for you all...since there have been so many NPC groups that didn't make it, do you think that any of the present groups will ever close or merge into another group? Of course I don't want any specific GLOs mentioned, but do you think is it a possibility?

On the other side of the spectrum...are there any local groups that are currently being considered by the NPC for membership? I've heard of a few groups that are interested, but to my knowledge nothing is happening. It has been more than 50 years now...
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Old 02-28-2007, 12:18 AM
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Wow, that looks nothing like the one I saw on ebay! Either it was mislabeled, or was a pledge pin. It truly was beautiful, though!
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:30 PM
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Correction: The Delta Sigma badge dated 1925 is not the same Delta Sigma that was absorbed by AOPi. Baird's 1912 (it's online now) already lists *that* Delta Sigma as absorbed.
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i am hesitant to speak for delta phi epsilon, not being a member of dphie. it is my understanding that the npc required them to change their original "triangle" shaped badge by adding the "ribbon" with their motto "esse quam videri" on the bottom of their badge before they were allowed entrance into the npc. supposedly, the npc felt that their original badge was too similar to that of sigma kappa and sigma sigma sigma in shape and appearance. i would imagine that the early members would have had very mixed feelings about having to change something so dear to their founders and their heritage. i cannot imagine having to change my beloved badge by npc directive. once again, i have seen and held an original dphie badge, it was beautiful and had a wonderful simplicity to it. their original badge is extremely rare and very meaningful for the sisterhood of delta phi epsilon. it has been posited that there were less than 1500 of the original dphie badges made. a member of this board whom i shall not name, who is a dphie, could better and more fully explain this required change and how unique and treasured their original badge is. she has personally rescued and preserved several of the very rare, original dphie badges. imagine the badge without the bottom "ribbon" and that is basically what it looked like. again, a member of dphie would be able to tell you the specifics. i know from the wonderful dphie members i know that they love their "new" badge as that is all most of them have ever known. however, many of the older dphie members cherish their older, original badge and rightfully try to preserve such a limited number of something so important to their heritage for their archives and personal collections.

i personally thank the pin collectors who have alerted us to situations such as this. how tragic it would be if one of these rare badges were just melted for scrap. imagine melting that wonderful iota alpha pi badge that origamitulip posted because they are no longer in existence, how sad.

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You rang??? Yes, indeed, you have hit the nail on the head on all points. When NPC "mandated" we change our badge, it might have been a suggestion , no one knows for sure - I wasn't there in 1950! Attached are some photos. From left to right they gain age - the one with the Eta is from Pitt from 1928 only 11 years after founding - pearls were smooshed in and not prong set. I don't think our organization has any resentment for having to change the badge - again we only had 1500 members at the time and we ADDED something important, our motto - so we really didn't "lose" anything.

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Old 02-28-2007, 03:21 PM
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You rang??? Yes, indeed, you have hit the nail on the head on all points. When NPC "mandated" we change our badge, it might have been a suggestion , no one knows for sure - I wasn't there in 1950! Attached are some photos. From left to right they gain age - the one with the Eta is from Pitt from 1928 only 11 years after founding - pearls were smooshed in and not prong set. I don't think our organization has any resentment for having to change the badge - again we only had 1500 members at the time and we ADDED something important, our motto - so we really didn't "lose" anything.

Very cool, and I can see how it would be confusing with both SK and Tri Sigma without a change. But this is only an addition, not a loss!
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