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02-22-2007, 01:55 PM
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Come on, if it really appears the guy was acting in good faith, he's a responsible citizen, not a criminal.
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02-22-2007, 01:56 PM
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I agree. Although he should have to fix the door 
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Come on, if it really appears the guy was acting in good faith, he's a responsible citizen, not a criminal.
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02-22-2007, 02:12 PM
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Come on, if it really appears the guy was acting in good faith, he's a responsible citizen, not a criminal.
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Totally agree. That county is notorious for overcharging crap and then pleading it so they can be "tough on crime" so I'm betting he'll end up pleading down to a disorderly. I think he should take it to trial if they don't dismiss and demand a jury trial.
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02-22-2007, 03:22 PM
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Ok, in this situation, shouldn't the other owner really be the one who determines if charges are pressed or not? I mean, if he backs down and says, eh, whatever, would there still be charges or can the state press them on its own?
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02-22-2007, 03:44 PM
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Ok, in this situation, shouldn't the other owner really be the one who determines if charges are pressed or not? I mean, if he backs down and says, eh, whatever, would there still be charges or can the state press them on its own?
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No, the state makes all charging decisions. This causes a lot of problems like in domestic violence cases where the victim will call the DA a few days later and say "Oh, I didn't really want to call the police, it's not a big deal, blah blah..." but at that point the victim has no say. They lose control of the case when they call the police.
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02-23-2007, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin
No, the state makes all charging decisions.
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Not necessarily true. I once caught a co-worker stealing from our family business and called police. They refused to press charges. They said "I" had to press the charges, meaning I could have said no. Perhaps it depends on the nature of the crime, and/or the jurisdiction.
In this case, the guy with the sword didn't have a phone, so I would assume the other guy called in the complaint and pressed charges.
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02-23-2007, 07:34 PM
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Not necessarily true. I once caught a co-worker stealing from our family business and called police. They refused to press charges. They said "I" had to press the charges, meaning I could have said no. Perhaps it depends on the nature of the crime, and/or the jurisdiction.
In this case, the guy with the sword didn't have a phone, so I would assume the other guy called in the complaint and pressed charges.
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If they said you had to press the charges then you probably didn't meet the standard for criminal theft and they may have meant you had to go civil.
I am very very familiar with this area (I would say more but, you know, crazy people on the interwebs) and I would be absolutely shocked if the DA was willing to drop it.
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02-23-2007, 07:41 PM
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No, I had to actually say out loud, in front of everybody, "I want him arrested", whereupon the cops put him in handcuffs and took him away in a police car. It wasn't all that civil.
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02-26-2007, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
Come on, if it really appears the guy was acting in good faith, he's a responsible citizen, not a criminal.
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I so agree. I remember watching some True Crime Stories on A&E and people could hear a woman being murdered and no one did jack about it and then the murderer killed 2 or 3 more people being being caught. They could have nipped it in the bud right then and there if they'd done something.
I am LMAO about the fact that he had a sword but no phone.  
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