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[macallan25]

Originally Posted by AggieSigmaNu361

Its not shocking to me that you want us to keep Fran around. Much for the same reason you saw lots of "Aggies For Mackovic" signs when we were routinely owning y'all in the late 80's and early 90's. And I guarantee if Mack and stepped in and lost 3 straight games to us, he'd have been gone, regardless of what he did against OU.

Say what you want, Fran let OU off the hook with shoddy playcalling. Nebraska as well. Those were disappointing losses where we should have had the game won.

Kitso
KS 361

That is a really really piss poor assumption. If we go 11-1 in each of those three regular seasons with our only losses coming to A&M .........you're gonna tell me Mack Brown would get fired?? Don't think so.

Fran let OU off the hook? I realize he calls 75% of the plays.........but that really isn't much different than any head coach that I know of. Mack Brown has the final say in all the plays as well. The was I saw it......both teams ran the ball well, couldn't pass to save their lives, had identical times of posession, and each turned the ball over. You could say Stoops could have given yall the game by not letting Thompson mix in some throws in the first half when OU was running the ball down your throat. Thompson threw like 12 times the whole game and looked like he'd never played QB before. OU also gave you a gift in the second half with those two turnovers that yall couldn't convert into any points. Don't tell me Fran is supposed to score for yall too??

.....Also, I could care less who you have as a head coach. I was merely saying that you can't compare Franchione to RC Slocum at this point. Fran has only been there for a few seasons.

Originally Posted by macallan25

That is a really really piss poor assumption. If we go 11-1 in each of those three regular seasons with our only losses coming to A&M .........you're gonna tell me Mack Brown would get fired?? Don't think so.

.....Also, I could care less who you have as a head coach. I was merely saying that you can't compare Franchione to RC Slocum at this point. Fran has only been there for a few seasons.

11-1? Maybe not, but if he had gone 4-8, 7-5, 5-6, and 9-4 in those years with losses to us, I guarantee that the burnt orange "faithful" would be more vocal than we are at this point. Mack went 9-3, 9-5, 9-3, and 11-2 with 3 wins vs. A&M in 4 years and 2 Big XII champ. appearances in his first 4 years. Not quite the same.

Had he compiled a record similar to Mackovic, 6-5, 5-5-1, 8-4, 10-2-1, 8-5, 4-7, with 2 wins in 5 years, I'm willing to beat he'd have been shown the door as well. Oh and Mackovic won a Big XII title in there and was gone after the following season.

What it all comes down to is that I am a member of the 12th Man Foundation and a contributer to Aggie Football. Therefore, I can chose to be displeased with any and all performances by AD personnel, as my donations are helping to fund them. If I want to compare Fran's dismal first 4 years (5th year pending) to RC's first 4 years, 8-4, 9-3-1, 10-2, 12-1 with 3 wins over Texas its completely my right. And NOTHING that someone who supports a program that benefits from our continued mediocrity says is going to change my personal opinion.

Kitso
KS 361

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by AggieSigmaNu361

11-1? Maybe not, but if he had gone 4-8, 7-5, 5-6, and 9-4 in those years with losses to us, I guarantee that the burnt orange "faithful" would be more vocal than we are at this point. Mack went 9-3, 9-5, 9-3, and 11-2 with 3 wins vs. A&M in 4 years and 2 Big XII champ. appearances in his first 4 years. Not quite the same.

Had he compiled a record similar to Mackovic, 6-5, 5-5-1, 8-4, 10-2-1, 8-5, 4-7, with 2 wins in 5 years, I'm willing to beat he'd have been shown the door as well. Oh and Mackovic won a Big XII title in there and was gone after the following season.

What it all comes down to is that I am a member of the 12th Man Foundation and a contributer to Aggie Football. Therefore, I can chose to be displeased with any and all performances by AD personnel, as my donations are helping to fund them. If I want to compare Fran's dismal first 4 years (5th year pending) to RC's first 4 years, 8-4, 9-3-1, 10-2, 12-1 with 3 wins over Texas its completely my right. And NOTHING that someone who supports a program that benefits from our continued mediocrity says is going to change my personal opinion.

Kitso
KS 361

Calm down Aggie, no one is saying its not your right to be pissed. I think the both of us just find it strange that you are comparing Franchione to a Hall of Fame caliber head football coach.

RC's first 4 games against us? We were 5-6 , 10-2, 5-6, 6-5. We were horrible. That 10-2 season was a fluke, we didn't play anybody till the Cotton Bowl and got destroyed by Miami.

Franchione's first 4 years? We were 10-3, 11-1 with a Rose Bowl win, 13-0, with a National Championship, and 10-3 in a season that was overall a disappointment. I don't care what you say about jobs depending upon beating your rivals...........but I think winning 1 out of 4 in that stretch is ok, especially considering how mediocre your football program had become. In fact, yall had been mediocre since after the '97 season when yall won the South.