Do most guys actually receive bids?

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Granted, I've said stuff like "it'd be cool if we had more people go through rush" but that doesn't mean I just want people, it means I want more people who we'd actually consider bidding. Numbers are good and can be helpful, but they're second fiddle to quality.

Your pont is well taken and I agree, but, there is always the gem in the rough who turns out be very outstanding. Wonder if cookie cutting fits here?

It is much easier for larger chapters to recruit in certain areas but again "THE BUT, not every Chapter is # 1,2, or 3.

Cut out the schools that do not seem to fit the criteria of some on here, what about the many schools that are not huge.

Take those away and many GLOs will be very small in numbers and members.

[AlphaFrog]

[shinerbock]

I guess I understand your point there Tom, but I just am not really concerned about the other schools. I'll leave it to them to figure out how to achieve whatever it is they want.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Your point is well taken and I agree, but, there is always the gem in the rough who turns out be very outstanding. Wonder if cookie cutting fits here?

Good point. This is why chapters should recruit year round and look at everyone. Pledge the the guys you know and want. But at the same time, use your resources to find and pledge those "rough gems".

It is much easier for larger chapters to recruit in certain areas but again "THE BUT, not every Chapter is # 1,2, or 3.

You are correct. It is easier for larger chapters because they have more resources (manpower, finances, alumni). However, numbers do not necessarily make a chapter "tops" on campus.

Cut out the schools that do not seem to fit the criteria of some on here, what about the many schools that are not huge.

Take those away and many GLOs will be very small in numbers and members.

I understand your point. However, it does not matter if the chapters on a campus are "small" compared to other campuses. What should be important is how they compare to the chapters on their campus.

[FSUZeta]

i guess that i am referring to those fraternity chapters who participate in formal recruitment, get 10-15 new members and feel content to be done for the rest of the year. they basically keep the status quo-they maintain, but don't take the opportunity to grow larger. there have to be some quality guys on campus who fall under the radar, would enhance the chapter and make great members. could it be that the fraternity's headquarters don't place much emphasis on numbers? or is it that the majority of guys don't feel they need to join fraternities? and if that's the case, are the fraternities marketing themselves properly?

if a sorority falls short of pledging quota, or is below campus total, they aren't going to stop recruiting just because formal recruitment is over. they most likely will continue to recruit thru out the entire year, if need be. they may not meet their goal, but there will continue to try.

continual recruiting does not have to cost a lot of money-it would cost them some time. if they met a great guy in class, or in a campus organization they both belong to, they could invite him over to the house to watch a sporting event on t.v. or to a party or social already on the calendar.

so, is it that sororities are held to a certain standard by their headquarters and fraternities just don't consider it that important? or is it because the goals-quota/total are more concrete? could it be the difference between a wedding the groom planned vs. a wedding planned by the bride? maybe tsteven hit the nail on the head when he said "sororities are from venus, fraternities are from mars."

[JSumter]

Does anyone know about the fraternity situation at University of North Carolina? I am going to try and rush as a sophomore next year. I know people in a few of the fraternities, but not really on a first name basis. (Meaning we may have worked together on projects, and one guy went to my Church.) Granted, there is one fraternity I could probably get into fairly easily, but I don't know if that would be my choice.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Keep in mind that fraternity rush does not have quota. Therefore, the fraternity does not make a decision on "do we like guy A or guy B more?" They make a decision on each guy, "do we like guy A enough to give him a bid?" Therefore, even if they rush most of their pledge class before the school year starts, it can't hurt them to meet even more guys.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Keep in mind that fraternity rush does not have quota. Therefore, the fraternity does not make a decision on "do we like guy A or guy B more?" They make a decision on each guy, "do we like guy A enough to give him a bid?" Therefore, even if they rush most of their pledge class before the school year starts, it can't hurt them to meet even more guys.

Thank You for stating this!

We "DO NOT" have Numbers as some do!

We take a Member for his individal worth to help build Our Chapters no matter what NIC GLO it is!

Maybe some others should take the hint?

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Good point. This is why chapters should recruit year round and look at everyone. Pledge the the guys you know and want. But at the same time, use your resources to find and pledge those "rough gems".



You are correct. It is easier for larger chapters because they have more resources (manpower, finances, alumni). However, numbers do not necessarily make a chapter "tops" on campus.



I understand your point. However, it does not matter if the chapters on a campus are "small" compared to other campuses. What should be important is how they compare to the chapters on their campus.

How True that is!

Each Campus is different.