How do you feel about high school and misc. step teams doing NPHC steps!

aurorablue · #1 01-09-2007, 07:52 PM

I'm really surprised I don't see any posts about this but then again I guess they can be in the archives. How do NPHC orgs feel about high school and misc. step teams doing their steps in stepshows? I'm a little old school (SGRho, Spr. 93) but I recently viewed some high school stepshows and the teams were doing things that mimic us EXACTLY, from the steps, to the showmanship, to the chants (although changing some words)....I mean everything!!! If I hear one more high school or misc. stepteam talk about "ICE COLD," I'm going to scream! What do these kids know about an "ICE ICE BABY...TOO COLD...TOO COLD"? Some of these teams (and clubs) even have 3 Greek letters for a name (and I'm not talking about the little sister clubs affiliated with our orgs., like the "Rhoer Club" for my organization). These kids are out of control but I know it's our members who are out there teaching them our steps or maybe they are studying our stepshow performances.

I don't mind if other people want to step and I'm all for getting kids off the streets and into something more positive, but they need their own steps. And I know it's not that hard to come up with new steps because I used to help create them for my undergrad chapter. Since when did drill teams become step teams anyway? My little cousin is in a "drill team" but the steps she showed me aren't like anything I remember drill teams doing when I was younger. She showed me actual steps, taken from our orgs. and before I educated her, she knew nothing about our orgs. or about the history behind our orgs. or the creation of stepping. Although I know it's not the children's fault, I think it's really disrespectful.

What do you all think?

Peace.
Aurorablue, SGRho, Spr. 93

BlueNYC2 · #2 01-09-2007, 10:23 PM

The reason why some of these teams are using our respective steps & what not are cuz their teachers/instructors are most likely members of our respective orgs. thats the only conclusion i can come too, cuz my sandz, she teaches the kids at her church some steps, and i'm sure there are some Zeta steps included.

Elephant Walk · #3 01-10-2007, 12:13 AM

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I mean everything!!! If I hear one more high school or misc. stepteam talk about "ICE COLD," I'm going to scream! What do these kids know about an "ICE ICE BABY...TOO COLD...TOO COLD"?

You mean from the Outkast song?

ladygreek · #4 01-10-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

You mean from the Outkast song?

That existed waaaayyyyy before Outkast. It was even used in School Daze.

PeppyGPhiB · #5 01-10-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

That existed waaaayyyyy before Outkast. It was even used in School Daze.

The first thing I thought of was Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby," since the lyrics are in there word-for-word at the end

aurorablue · #6 01-10-2007, 03:15 PM

Vanilla Ice stole that line from Alpha Phi Alpha when he recorded that record back in the 80's. The Alphas took him to court over it too and I think they won since all of Alpha's traditional chants are copyrighted. The "ICE COLD" chant is very dear to them and has a significant meaning for the Alphas; it actually tells a story of their founding. That's why I just hate to hear people just mimic them like that, like it's a joke. Most of the NPHC traditional chants have historical and significant value to the members.

Peace.
Aurorablue, SGRho, Spr. 93

Bob Dole · #7 01-11-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

You mean from the Outkast song?

Andre 3000 is awesome.

AlphaFrog · #8 01-11-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Andre 3000 is awesome.

Worst. Sockpuppet. Ever.

ladygreek · #9 01-10-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by aurorablue

I'm really surprised I don't see any posts about this but then again I guess they can be in the archives. How do NPHC orgs feel about high school and misc. step teams doing their steps in stepshows? I'm a little old school (SGRho, Spr. 93) but I recently viewed some high school stepshows and the teams were doing things that mimic us EXACTLY, from the steps, to the showmanship, to the chants (although changing some words)....I mean everything!!! If I hear one more high school or misc. stepteam talk about "ICE COLD," I'm going to scream! What do these kids know about an "ICE ICE BABY...TOO COLD...TOO COLD"? Some of these teams (and clubs) even have 3 Greek letters for a name (and I'm not talking about the little sister clubs affiliated with our orgs., like the "Rhoer Club" for my organization). These kids are out of control but I know it's our members who are out there teaching them our steps or maybe they are studying our stepshow performances.

I don't mind if other people want to step and I'm all for getting kids off the streets and into something more positive, but they need their own steps. And I know it's not that hard to come up with new steps because I used to help create them for my undergrad chapter. Since when did drill teams become step teams anyway? My little cousin is in a "drill team" but the steps she showed me aren't like anything I remember drill teams doing when I was younger. She showed me actual steps, taken from our orgs. and before I educated her, she knew nothing about our orgs. or about the history behind our orgs. or the creation of stepping. Although I know it's not the children's fault, I think it's really disrespectful.

What do you all think?

Peace.
Aurorablue, SGRho, Spr. 93

who do you think is teaching them the steps? NPHCers. And you are right there are only so many combinations people can make up before they are really imitating someone else. To me stepping is not that important to be worrying about who is copying. Now if they wear our letters while doing it...