What do people think about ethnic GLOs

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Wow! What part are you from? I'm from Fargo. Itsy bitsy world huh?

I was born and raised in St. Paul, MN.

Fargo? You're from North Dakota huh? A buddy of mine graduated from UND.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

It's always nice to see someone else from Minnesota on GC.

So that makes five of us NPHCers with MN ties on here: PhrozenGod01,
Delph88, Jubilance1922, you and me. Way to go MinneSNOWta.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

So that makes five of us NPHCers with MN ties on here: PhrozenGod01,
Delph88, Jubilance1922, you and me. Way to go MinneSNOWta.

Wow, I didn't know it was that many of us. Kool!

When I was there last week I didn't see any snow. I wasn't mad though. I don't like the snow or cold weather.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I was born and raised in St. Paul, MN.

Fargo? You're from North Dakota huh? A buddy of mine graduated from UND.

No, I'm from Mn.

There's a Fargo Mn. too. Since you're from the Twin Cities I didn't expect you to know that.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

When I was there last week I didn't see any snow. I wasn't mad though. I don't like the snow or cold weather.

I like skiing, sledding and pond hockey, but I'd rather not drive on ice, or have to brush it off my car. I prefer the sights and sounds of summer to the brutal Minnesota climate. I could care less about global warming right now. My gasoline isn't freezing.

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

I like skiing, sledding and pond hockey, but I'd rather not drive on ice, or have to brush it off my car. I prefer the sights and sounds of summer to the brutal Minnesota climate. I could care less about global warming right now. My gasoline isn't freezing.

Its not even that cold this year! (That was totally a guess, since I live in sunny Orlando now, where its 80 degrees outside )

I remember my senior year it got down to -30 and my car wouldn't start! I had to wait until it warmed up to -20 around lunchtime before I could drive....Now that's cold...

[Corsulian]

Originally Posted by jaynu

I can't help to wonder: What do other organizations think about us? I just couldn't stop thinking about what these big fraternities would think about a smaller ethnic one. What do you guys think? Men in larger organizations, I was hoping to hear your opinions the most.

There's an asian fraternity interest group on my campus--it formed last year sometime. I don't think I ever actually met any of the members or saw them.

I have nothing against them, I just never quite understood the concept of it. GMU was the most diverse university in the country (now it's #2 or something) and we're not a Big South school by any measure. My own chapter is incredibly diverse (ethnically, geographically, politically, and age-wise ((age range 18-29 for the actives))). It seems odd to label something as part of the MultiCultural Greek Council when the organizations each are only aimed at one specific culture. It's fine--these group should be free to exist. I only wonder if many of them exist because they have stereotyped the social fraternities.

[L.O.C.K.]

The reason minority Greeks were created in the first place was because of racist laws that we're taken out until the 1960's by most organizations and still provide the backdrop for our current setting.

What do NIC/NPC orgs do *specifically* to benefit the Black/Latino/Asian communities? I don't see the organizations as a whole maintaining a committment to communities of color.

Studies have bee done on this. The results show that ethnicity is something one can't really be open about in many (not all) NPC/NIC chapters.

Every organization was founded on certain values/beliefs. You're not going to see minority Greek organization membership go down until you see increased racial integration across NIC/NPC orgs as a whole (which is a LONG way off) and true equality for all people in this country. That's the reality.

If those guys want to start a chapter of whatever fraternity it is, let them. Minority Greeks focus on specific communities. If NPC/NIC organizations aren't helping those communities, then don't complain when people join those organizations.

[Taualumna]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

The reason minority Greeks were created in the first place was because of racist laws that we're taken out until the 1960's by most organizations and still provide the backdrop for our current setting.

1980s? Most were gone by the mid 70s.

What do NIC/NPC orgs do *specifically* to benefit the Black/Latino/Asian communities? I don't see the organizations as a whole maintaining a committment to communities of color.

They do make a committment to better the community as a whole, however.

Studies have bee done on this. The results show that ethnicity is something one can't really be open about in many (not all) NPC/NIC chapters.

But you can't necessarily be open about them in "ethnic" GLOs either, unless it is very ethnic specific. Say ABC, an Asian GLO is predominantly Japanese. You are say, Korean. The Japanese members may or may not be open to your culture 100% of the time.

Every organization was founded on certain values/beliefs. You're not going to see minority Greek organization membership go down until you see increased racial integration across NIC/NPC orgs as a whole (which is a LONG way off) and true equality for all people in this country. That's the reality.

True

If those guys want to start a chapter of whatever fraternity it is, let them. Minority Greeks focus on specific communities. If NPC/NIC organizations aren't helping those communities, then don't complain when people join those organizations.

But for schools who have made an effort to have more minority members in NIC/NPC groups, some worry that membership will drop once more minority GLOs come on board.

[mccoyred]

As long as there are people of color, there will always be a need for organizations that focus specifically on these communities. Same with women, Americans, disabled, etc.

[L.O.C.K.]

The post says 1960's.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

The post says 1960's.

Thank You, I wondered if I miss read. I didn't think so.

Individuals will go, join, or start a group where they feel comfortable period.

Also, times of historical nature have changed over the years.?

[Taualumna]

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

The post says 1960's.

Oops.

But anyway, L.O.C.K., outside of NPHC groups, "ethnic" GLOs tend to be a post WWII thing. Many were founded in the last 20 years. Personally, I find it surprising that many Asians are joining these new organizations, because in my experience, Asians (especially Chinese) like tradition. A local girls' private school established in the early 90s is having trouble recruiting Asian students because the parents (as I mentioned in a much earlier post) are opting for century-old prep schools. I have an aunt who influenced my cousin (her son) to go to a 160 year old, very established school rather than a newer one, established in the 60s.

Do you think this is a form of rebellion?

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

I like skiing, sledding and pond hockey, but I'd rather not drive on ice, or have to brush it off my car. I prefer the sights and sounds of summer to the brutal Minnesota climate. I could care less about global warming right now. My gasoline isn't freezing.

The only thing I like about the freezing cold in Minnesota is Ice Fishing and Snow Tubing. Snow Tubing is the best. I'm going back in March and July. In July is the Kappa Konclave, so I'll be there for that and I have to go back in March to start making arrangements for some brothers from my school. It should be fun.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Taualumna

1980s? Most were gone by the mid 70s.




They do make a committment to better the community as a whole, however.



But you can't necessarily be open about them in "ethnic" GLOs either, unless it is very ethnic specific. Say ABC, an Asian GLO is predominantly Japanese. You are say, Korean. The Japanese members may or may not be open to your culture 100% of the time.



True



But for schools who have made an effort to have more minority members in NIC/NPC groups, some worry that membership will drop once more minority GLOs come on board.

I agree. I think especially if organizations from the NPHC come on board, African American interest could decline from IFC/NPC groups.