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Old 01-05-2007, 01:35 PM
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There's no such thing as an aborted baby. If it was aborted, it's not a baby.
What is it then? A fish?
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:37 PM
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What is it then? A fish?
No, it was a clump of cells.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:40 PM
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No, it was a clump of cells.
Do you have some extra popcorn, Drolefille?
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:46 PM
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Do you have some extra popcorn, Drolefille?
I like mine fetus flavoured.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:47 PM
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I like mine fetus flavoured.
LOL. Babies are great, but I never know what to do with the leftovers.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:50 PM
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Knowing kappa2 and some of her health history, I highly doubt she meant this to be an inflammatory thread.

However, there is already a discussion on Stem Cell research from aborted fetuses so this thread is really unnecessary.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:59 PM
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Do you have some extra popcorn, Drolefille?
*tosses some over*
And it's fetus-free popcorn
(no babies, fetii, embryos, etc.)
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:15 PM
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Not meant as inflammatory

OOPS! I come across terribly over email, don't I? I need a writing class that specializes in how to write online. I've never been good at it.

I sincerely apologize for anyone who felt offended or provoked.

A friend of mine fowarded me the email yesterday, and I just copied the title of the email without putting much thought into how those passionate about the baby vs. cells debate would react. Again, so sorry.

Because I never heard the story before, I wasn't certain what to believe about it and thought this group of news&politics readers might know more than the fowarded email suggests. Possibly someone could offer some educational insight on if this story is true/false/misleading and if there are any possible health complications due to the source being used.

It is my understanding that whenever you introduce one human's cells into another person, there exists the possibility of rejection by the host person which can lead to complications. Is it possible to direct this conversation into more of that kind of debate?

Thanks for your consideration-
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:17 PM
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Is it possible to direct this conversation into more of that kind of debate?
Doubt it. It's already train-wrecked pretty badly.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:18 PM
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Doubt it. It's already train-wrecked pretty badly.
Yeah, this just exploded into a Multiple Casualty Incident (MCI). Alphafrog, we disagree and that's cool.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:41 PM
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No, it was a clump of cells.
That just happened to be taking the shape of *gasp* a human baby.


That is, before they were rudely interrupted.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:02 PM
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That just happened to be taking the shape of *gasp* a human baby.


That is, before they were rudely interrupted.
Baby is after birth. Embryo and fetus before birth. And they only really start taking shape around 2 months. I can now say I have seen it for myself.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:05 PM
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That just happened to be taking the shape of *gasp* a human baby.


That is, before they were rudely interrupted.

No, it is taking the shape of a human FETUS. A baby is quite differently shaped than a fetus.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:15 PM
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No, it is taking the shape of a human FETUS. A baby is quite differently shaped than a fetus.
At first. But an 8 month old fetus isn't differently shaped. And we can argue semantics all we want, point is, whatever you want to call it, it's LIVING HUMAN.
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Old 01-05-2007, 02:17 PM
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At first. But an 8 month old fetus isn't differently shaped. And we can argue semantics all we want, point is, whatever you want to call it, it's LIVING HUMAN.
An 8 month old fetus is also viable for life and won't be aborted. Before 22 weeks, it's not viable for life, it's not sentient. Therein lies the difference.
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