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Originally Posted by Kevin
I disagree with your charge regarding voyeurism. It's true that some on here could without doubt be characterized as judgmental. You seem to be of the mind that being judgmental is a bad thing. I have news for you -- insurance companies are pretty judgmental. Leaders of our respective HQs are judgmental when they close a chapter due to risk management violations. Discussion regarding these matters -- sometimes reaching the conclusion that 'someone done wrong' is hardly voyeuristic. Judgmental? Sure.
-- but there's nothing inherently wrong about being judgmental.
Generally, I don't feel like I have to explain anything I do regarding managing this forum. Your post was respectful (but needlessly threatening) and well written. If you don't like the way I run things, feel free to PM me. If you don't want to that, PM John. Threatening to call IHQs is just silly, not even worth a response.
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Kevin, I appreciate that insurance companies and IHQs take a hard line- and there is nothing wrong with people coming here or anywhere else and posting with that reality in mind. (It is not my place to say right or wrong, but I am just wanting to clarify what I am complaining about.)
But to discuss such things and expect civil discourse I think all parties, especially we who are graduated and have some age and experience, have to carefully read and consider what they can about an incident before making comments that go beyond good, if hard to swallow, advice and instead get into discussions that degenerate like that SMU thread.
You couldn't pay me to moderate this forum- or any other for that matter. I can only imagine the amount of time required and the hassles involved. I am merely pointing out that when an unfortunate death of a young man who made some unfortunate choices is used to as an opportunity to criticize an existing Greek stereotype- then it is to be expected that anyone with any association to the incident is going to react strongly.
The "calls to IHQ" threat was not intended to stifle discourse or threaten you personally. It is certainly a drastic resort.
But I am fiercely protective of my chapter as an advisor, and in an extreme case like this one involving a death that is discussed in a forum like this in such a manner that casts improper aspersions on the chapter or entire fraternity as a whole- you better believe I would do it. And so would many others. Many of our IHQs watch this site, and this forum in particular draws a great deal of attention.
The timing of the locking of the thread- I cannot know for sure. But in the heat of battle I made an assumption that the timing of events supported. Given what I have seen on this site in recent weeks, it would be hard for me to conclude otherwise.
I have no ownership or management stake in this site. I am not going to complain to anyone. All I am going to do is decide whether it is worth my time coming here. The fun chat is good here and there, but I have a life and if this is not going to be a site that is beneficial to use, I will just leave. This is a free site and it does not belong to me, so staying or going seems the only productive choice.
Some may think I am overreacting, but if you saw and heard what is going around here lately- and the reputation this site is developing- you might not think me so crazy.
Anyhow- I have said my peace and thank you for letting me say it. I will say no more on the matter unless asked.
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