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[7thSonofOsiris]

Topshider, you've done it again boy. You have succeeded in distracting grown folks while grown folks are talking. I think your knowledge of history is nill. Your knowledge of our American history, is only reflective of your knowledge of race relations. Sit back and learn son, you are missing some of the gems of life, especially in regards to the gift of 'the melting pot' that you exist in.

the 7th

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 7thSonofOsiris

'the melting pot' that you exist in.

Is that his words or yours?

LOL..."melting pot" is nothing more than a restaurant.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

We aren't talking the natural sciences here--of course some of that is also subjective and a social construction.

We're talking about "historical facts" of which the exclusion or inclusion of certain details and standpoints can make a helluva difference.

You're right about "historical" facts. "Winners" and "losers" usually have different interpretations about actual events. I do accept actual facts to be true, no matter what the outcome is, if I have did enough cross-referencing. But since history concerns past events, no reenactment can change what happened.

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Is that his words or yours?

LOL..."melting pot" is nothing more than a restaurant.

Actually, I think that this country is more of a melting pot than some would like to believe. I mean, I love Chinese and Italian food, Canadian whiskey, and a lot of my clothes are made in Taiwan. Now, it's not like everyone likes each other or anything all sugary, but Americans are influenced by many different cultures. It's not neccesarily a social melting pot but American society does not occur in a vaccum.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

Actually, I think that this country is more of a melting pot than some would like to believe. I mean, I love Chinese and Italian food, Canadian whiskey, and a lot of my clothes are made in Taiwan. Now, it's not like everyone likes each other or anything all sugary, but Americans are influenced by many different cultures. It's not neccesarily a social melting pot but American society does not occur in a vaccum.

I'm glad you concluded with this b/c I was about to ask if you were serious in confessing your taste in food and clothing. Melting pot isn't about "liking" anyone or even about cultural influence. Sure, there are Mexicans working at On The Border and I drink Chai Tea almost everyday but who cares? These groups are still identifiable as distinct racial and ethnic entities, and often subjected to inequality under a privileged race and class system, so the U.S. is more of a "salad bowl" than a "melting pot."

My jogging pants were made in China, in case anyone cares.

[7thSonofOsiris]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I'm glad you concluded with this b/c I was about to ask if you were serious in confessing your taste in food and clothing. Melting pot isn't about "liking" anyone or even about cultural influence. Sure, there are Mexicans working at On The Border and I drink Chai Tea almost everyday but who cares? These groups are still identifiable as distinct racial and ethnic entities, and often subjected to inequality under a privileged race and class system, so the U.S. is more of a "salad bowl" than a "melting pot."

My jogging pants were made in China, in case anyone cares.

When a person speaks of the term or phrase "melting pot", they are only speaking of the cultrually mixed affect of the "melting pot". Discussions about this "pot" are not usually the foundation of the socio-econ-political strata and state of being in our country. Nonetheless, we have to with lucid clarity, acknowledge that the "melting pot" exist. This issue of existence,sub-existences, priviledge, and what not, is a whole other discussion.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by 7thSonofOsiris

When a person speaks of the term or phrase "melting pot", they are only speaking of the cultrually mixed affect of the "melting pot".

No.

When one has a melting pot, one usually has SLUDGE on the bottom of it.

[7thSonofOsiris]

Chaos,

No, what??? You always trying to start some chaos. You already got my man, TruGreek going bananas. Not me Chaos, nope.

[FatalDSTination]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

My jogging pants were made in China, in case anyone cares.

__________________________ LOL...

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by 7thSonofOsiris

Topshider, you've done it again boy. You have succeeded in distracting grown folks while grown folks are talking. I think your knowledge of history is nill. Your knowledge of our American history, is only reflective of your knowledge of race relations. Sit back and learn son, you are missing some of the gems of life, especially in regards to the gift of 'the melting pot' that you exist in.

the 7th

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[L.O.C.K.]

Salad Bowl is a better term.

Melting pot implies that you add different ingredients that become ONE entity at the end that is comprised of all of them. This is clearly not what America is, as we have many distinct racial, ethinic, religious groups in this country that are very different than each other.

Read Reinventing the Melting Pot, it's good. One guy uses the term "alloy", like metal alloy, as a metaphor. I think thats a good explanation.

Originally Posted by L.O.C.K.

Salad Bowl is a better term.

Actually, I like "pot of stew" better.

[Drolefille]

My polysci teacher talked a lot about how during the period that "melting pot" was really used we were much more of a stew/salad and these days so much more of culture and race blends over into each other. They're not irrelevant or completely intermeshed but we're more mingled now than we ever have been in our country's history.

Perhaps the best "melting pot" idea would be melting metal (as someone else said) or something solid enough that they don't mix completely but wherever two different types touch there's blending.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by OTW

Actually, I like "pot of stew" better.

reminds me of seafood gumbo...but I prefer clam chowder

to me, melting pot sounds like fusing things together, which may not be the best term to descibe our country. More like every single culture co-exist here, but not fuse and blend in. When you talk about fusing or blending, that simply implies that ones culture blends into another and lost its original form, which is not the case here. Every culture here preserves their own traditions, like Chinese people do the lion dance, irish people uses four leaf clovers as a symbol during st patrick's day.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by cutie_cat_4ever

reminds me of seafood gumbo...but I prefer clam chowder

to me, melting pot sounds like fusing things together, which may not be the best term to descibe our country. More like every single culture co-exist here, but not fuse and blend in. When you talk about fusing or blending, that simply implies that ones culture blends into another and lost its original form, which is not the case here. Every culture here preserves their own traditions, like Chinese people do the lion dance, irish people uses four leaf clovers as a symbol during st patrick's day.

The blending comes when "everyone" becomes Irish on St. Patrick's day or entire cities celebrate the Chinese New Year etc. I agree that they all coexist but they also mesh into each other and back out again.