SMU student found dead at SAE House

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Reality Check1

Macallan, pay a mortgage and buy a car with your own money, and maybe I'll pay attention to you.
You know darn well that some bad stuff went down at your frat. I know they feel remorse, but they are also pretty darn nervous about the long term implications. SMU has a reputation for being a Coke Haven and you know what it isn't funny anymore, period.

A young man has died and somebody should pay for this.

Somebody did pay. He did. With his life.

Show some fucking respect. If you were my pledge you would be doing RESPECT pushups until you could hardly use your arms.

[7thSonofOsiris]

It never ceases to amaze me at how, during such a tenuous moment, some of us can seem to forget about what makes the moment so tenuous and fragile to begin with. This moment is not about one guy cussing out another guy. This moment is not about the party life at a southern university, because the issue of drug abuse is pandemic throughout most of America's universities and colleges. It's not about the issue of Risk Management alone, but to some degree, this moment will make every organization and its Headquarters take a strong viable look at its policies and protocols. What we do have is, a family that is due our deepest and most sincere condolences, which must be coupled with our own senses of constraint, remembering to respect the situation enough not to pile on the un-necessary speculations, our self-imposed investigations and our unfounded derivations. We have a fraternal chapter that needs the full scope of our knowledge, in some instances sadly enough, our experiences with similar incidents, and definitely our support, and none of this needs to be weakened by an attitude of empathy, but more importantly, the foundations of what is birthed out of this situation, must strengthened by an attitude of continued education about what led to this incident. We have the responsibility of not putting assunder, by casting dispersions in all directions, the legacy birthed from the life of a young man, that was taken much too soon. We must remember to stand with an air of dignity and honor, as we say goodbye to a fallen brother. Not just a brother in the, "my fraternity brother" sense and usage of the word, but rather, a brother in this journey called life.

Peace,
the 7th Son of Osiris

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by 7thSonofOsiris

It never ceases to amaze me at how, during such a tenuous moment, some of us can seem to forget about what makes the moment so tenuous and fragile to begin with. This moment is not about one guy cussing out another guy. This moment is not about the party life at a southern university, because the issue of drug abuse is pandemic throughout most of America's universities and colleges. It's not about the issue of Risk Management alone, but to some degree, this moment will make every organization and its Headquarters take a strong viable look at its policies and protocols. What we do have is, a family that is due our deepest and most sincere condolences, which must be coupled with our own senses of constraint, remembering to respect the situation enough not to pile on the un-necessary speculations, our self-imposed investigations and our unfounded derivations. We have a fraternal chapter that needs the full scope of our knowledge, in some instances sadly enough, our experiences with similar incidents, and definitely our support, and none of this needs to be weakened by an attitude of empathy, but more importantly, the foundations of what is birthed out of this situation, must strengthened by an attitude of continued education about what led to this incident. We have the responsibility of not putting assunder, by casting dispersions in all directions, the legacy birthed from the life of a young man, that was taken much too soon. We must remember to stand with an air of dignity and honor, as we say goodbye to a fallen brother. Not just a brother in the, "my fraternity brother" sense and usage of the word, but rather, a brother in this journey called life.

Peace,
the 7th Son of Osiris

Well said.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Somebody did pay. He did. With his life.

Show some fucking respect. If you were my pledge you would be doing RESPECT pushups until you could hardly use your arms.

Does this show respect?

Respect is earned, not forced.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

Does this show respect?

Respect is earned, not forced.

Respect push ups have nothing to do with attempting to force respect. They are attempting to remind one of the place they are in and punish for clear disrespect. The pledges learn respect for the members in a much different way.