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12-20-2006, 06:43 PM
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I would like to hear the argument for the benefit of rehabilitation. There might be some good reasoning behind it...but why let a person get away with their misdeeds for a hope of making them a functional person and introducing them back into society?
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12-20-2006, 11:57 PM
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I know of two women who were sold to pimps before they were teenagers. Neither of them ever entered the court system, as they truly believed that they belonged to their pimp. Both were fortunate enough to escape by the time they were 24 - over ten years of servitude. Both of the pimps are still on the streets, to my knowledge.
Frankly, I don't believe that rehabilitation for sex crimes exists. I know that dozens of aversion therapies have been tried, and none have worked - even attaching electrodes to genitalia of the offender. Even chemical castration still leaves the underlying problem, the hatred of women (or children), very much alive in the mind of the predator. Granted, I have very strong beliefs about this, having heard more about this type of crime than I ever intended, but I'd have no problem with capital punishment for a sexual offender.
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12-21-2006, 12:05 AM
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Yeah the bitch needs a longer sentence. In addition, lock her up in a room with inmates full of mothers upset because they can't see their children.
Guaranteed she will get a First Class ass whuppin
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12-21-2006, 12:55 AM
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This happens a lot more often than you'd like to think. It's actually surprising that this case is even getting press. I haven't heard about it (except for this thread), so it might not be getting that much press.
This is where the assaultive retributivist in me comes out though... criminals like this should be treated as noxious insects to be ground under the heel of society.
(that's a quote, but I don't know who said it)
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12-21-2006, 01:33 AM
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Quote or not, it's pretty good!
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12-21-2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Coramoor
I would like to hear the argument for the benefit of rehabilitation. There might be some good reasoning behind it...but why let a person get away with their misdeeds for a hope of making them a functional person and introducing them back into society?
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I'm not arguing in favor of anything, but there's a massive flaw in both lines of thinking - the massive flaw in yours is that, if there's no hope of rehabilitation, don't we need to lock every semi-serious criminal up forever?
That's then the only way to ensure against relapse . . . right? Where do you draw the line?
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12-21-2006, 11:55 AM
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I'm not arguing in favor of anything, but there's a massive flaw in both lines of thinking - the massive flaw in yours is that, if there's no hope of rehabilitation, don't we need to lock every semi-serious criminal up forever?
That's then the only way to ensure against relapse . . . right? Where do you draw the line?
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It's the age-old retributivist versus utilitarian debate.
The best part about it is that you can write all day long on it, but there is no right answer.
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12-21-2006, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
It's the age-old retributivist versus utilitarian debate.
The best part about it is that you can write all day long on it, but there is no right answer.
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Either way, it's nice to think that there's a special ring in hell reserved for people like this woman.
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12-21-2006, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
It's the age-old retributivist versus utilitarian debate.
The best part about it is that you can write all day long on it, but there is no right answer.
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I'd go with "worst", because it leads to do-nothing 'arguments' like this one . . . although we can all agree this woman's actions were pretty much as bad as it could possibly get, at least toward an individual.
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12-21-2006, 07:00 PM
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I'd have no problem with capital punishment for a sexual offender.
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I totally agree. I've often gone back and forth on the issue with capital punishment, however I do think that all sex offenders (especially with those that hurt children) need to fry. My best friend's brother was abused by their 55 year old female babysitter when he was 6. I wont describe how, but it came out years later when he was going through puberty. Unfortunately this shitbag is still on the streets despite their efforts to get her locked up. To try and make him feel safe they changed and unlisted their phone numbers, changed locks on all cars and their house, changed their burglar alarm code, and then ultimately ended up moving into a new house because their son was so terrified of the basement. This child is 23 today and still has major psychological problems as a result of the abuse.
In my opinion sex offenders (and other forms of child abusers) give up their rights when they hurt children. There is no worse criminal. As a society we must not let these perps get off lightly. Judges need to be held accountable for dispicable sentences such as this.
I'm having a party if Jessica's Law becomes a federal law (25 years to life i think it is for first offense --someone correct me if I'm wrong).
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