Any NASCAR fans on here?

[shinerbock]

I don't think they'd take away Dega, but about twice a year, some yankee-ass NASCAR writer presents the idea of going to only one race a year at each of the restrictor plates. Its really gotten to the point where NASCAR likes everything to do with the sport, except for the actual racing part. It baffles me. People will say things like "well, those tracks allow you to draft and provide for lead changes..." Of course they do, thats part of racing. Despite the opinions of the France family and Helton, racing at low speed-low banked tracks does not constitute some purer form of racing. It allows the best car to win, and places the emphasis on the shop rather than the driver. Unfortunately for drivers I like, this usually favors Hendrix. Obviously having a good car is important, but at restrictor plate tracks or places like Atlanta or Bristol, you're generally not gonna win the race simply by having a good car. If you can't draft or pass, you're gonna have a tough time winning at Daytona/Dega/Atlanta regardless of how good your car is.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I don't think they'd take away Dega, but about twice a year, some yankee-ass NASCAR writer presents the idea of going to only one race a year at each of the restrictor plates. Its really gotten to the point where NASCAR likes everything to do with the sport, except for the actual racing part. It baffles me. People will say things like "well, those tracks allow you to draft and provide for lead changes..." Of course they do, thats part of racing. Despite the opinions of the France family and Helton, racing at low speed-low banked tracks does not constitute some purer form of racing. It allows the best car to win, and places the emphasis on the shop rather than the driver. Unfortunately for drivers I like, this usually favors Hendrix. Obviously having a good car is important, but at restrictor plate tracks or places like Atlanta or Bristol, you're generally not gonna win the race simply by having a good car. If you can't draft or pass, you're gonna have a tough time winning at Daytona/Dega/Atlanta regardless of how good your car is.

Yeah that's true. I think pretty much at all the tracks now, you have to have a good car. Years ago before all this down force and restrictor plates, back when NASCAR was NASCAR, I think that's when it was about the driver. Those boys could drive anything back then.

[shinerbock]

Well, you still have some of that. I think guys like Tony Stewart and Gordon can still drive anything, although Gordon really hasn't shown much in the past few years as far as racing brilliance, but then he hasn't had to. The big question I've had for a while is whether Robbie Gordon would succeed on a good team. He may know more about cars than anyone else in Cup, and he is supposedly a jack of all trades when it comes to racing. However, it seems like he would outperform his equipment if he was really that talented.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, you still have some of that. I think guys like Tony Stewart and Gordon can still drive anything, although Gordon really hasn't shown much in the past few years as far as racing brilliance, but then he hasn't had to. The big question I've had for a while is whether Robbie Gordon would succeed on a good team. He may know more about cars than anyone else in Cup, and he is supposedly a jack of all trades when it comes to racing. However, it seems like he would outperform his equipment if he was really that talented.

Robbie Gordon sucks.