Three Hospitalized (Alcohol) at U of Central Florida

adpiucf · #1 11-09-2006, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fifi225

Among other things. There were some structural modifications made to the house, beams removed to make a loft, load bearing walls compromised etc etc etc that (from what the fire marshall told me) have contributed to the house being deemd "unsafe". It needs a lot of work.

Holy cow. I'd forgotten all about the Pike house "lofts." LOL.

ETA: With there being two vacant chapter houses on campus, I hope that Chi Omega will finally be able to get on-campus housing. Anyone who goes to UCF will (for the most part) agree that sorority housing should take priority over the fraternities.

FL-E1973 · #2 11-09-2006, 04:22 PM

Just out of curiousity, why should sorority housing have priority over fraternities?

TSteven · #3 11-09-2006, 04:35 PM

According to Sigma Alpha Epsilon IHQ: "The chapter’s charter will remain suspended, not revoked, for an indefinite period of time. Depending on what university officials decide, Sigma Alpha Epsilon may choose to return with a new group of students in several years."

I bet dollars to donuts, that SAE will be back on campus sooner than later.

adpiucf · #4 11-09-2006, 04:41 PM

I have a feeling the house is going to stand alone for the next few years-- I hope they'll at least lease it out to someone.

sherbertlemons · #5 11-09-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf

I have a feeling the house is going to stand alone for the next few years-- I hope they'll at least lease it out to someone.

I have a feeling about that, too. It's sad; the unhoused sororities would really kill for the Pike or SAE houses. I was on campus recently and the Pike house looks really bad, too.

Stupid frats who can't behave themselves and then can't even give up their empty houses!

FL-E1973 · #6 11-09-2006, 04:54 PM

I don't know if I am talking to a brick wall here or not but the house is not going to be empty, second of all, recruiting a fraternity without a house is no picnic either.

TSteven · #7 11-09-2006, 05:02 PM

Some hypothetical questions.

Would a sorority lease a house knowing that it would only be for X number of years? And how many years do y'all think a chapter would be willing to lease it? Would it hurt the chapter "down the line" to have been housed for a couple of years, then un-housed?

And a non-hypothetical "real" question.

Why are some chapters un-housed? Why not rent something off campus? Do they have some sort of space (suite, dorm floor, etc.) currently?

ZTAngel · #8 11-09-2006, 05:02 PM

Any word on Greek Park 2? It's been in the works forever and I thought they finally got the turtle problem solved.

sherbertlemons · #9 11-09-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FL-E1973

I don't know if I am talking to a brick wall here or not but the house is not going to be empty, second of all, recruiting a fraternity without a house is no picnic either.

Well, I certainly hope you're not talking to a brick wall. :-)

I agree, recruiting without a house is no fun for anyone, epecially when chapters around you are housed. However, I will argue that it is different. Now, I'm no expert on fraternity recruitment (obviously), but my understanding is that they have a much more laid back recruitment. More time for the PNMs to get to know the brothers, etc.

Now take sorority recruitment. At UCF, we generally had between a half hour and a hour with the PNMs. You have a very short period of time to make a first impression, which was often all the information the girls had with which to make a decision. The first thing girls noticed when they were walking into my chapter during recruitment was "Wait, we're walking into a fraternity house." I haven't even met the girl and I already have explaining to do!

The first words out of her mouth are "Why don't you have a house?" After I finish the answer, the next question is "Are you going to get a house?" Beleive me, "eventually" doesn't seem to satisfy most PNMs. So I've just wasted several minutes out of my precious thirty minute conversation answering questions that really don't have happy answers. IMHO, that is why recruitment without a house is far worse on sororities.

Not only are UCF's houses small, it is my understanding that there is at least one group with a house so small they can't even hold chapter meetings there!

TrueBlueKappa, I really hope housing works out this time. I really do. I'm just not going to believe UCF will actually make it happen until I'm standing on Kappa's front porch.

Oh, to be a rich alumna who could dangle a nice fat donation in front of UCF's face and ask that they fix the Greek housing situation.

adpiucf · #10 11-09-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sherbertlemons

I have a feeling about that, too. It's sad; the unhoused sororities would really kill for the Pike or SAE houses. I was on campus recently and the Pike house looks really bad, too.

Stupid frats who can't behave themselves and then can't even give up their empty houses!

I agree. I think it would help the unhoused chapters tremendously to be on "equal" footing at recruitment. So many girls won't even look at an unhoused chapter because the ones with houses are perceived as stronger. Which is very silly.

Although getting a house doesn't mean that a chapter won't experience growing pains. When Alpha Xi got the DG house a few years ago, a large number of women cancelled -- dues experienced a sharp increase. While I think this was a good opportunity to separate the women who truly wanted to be there from those who didn't, I recall a good number of wonderful members who truly couldn't afford the extra expense. All in all, it's really been a pleasure to watch Alpha Xi grow-- I got to campus when they were still relatively new to UCF and they have just taken off since they got a chapter house.

UCFStefanie · #11 11-10-2006, 06:28 PM

I might be behind on this notice and if I am I do appologize, But here is the official notice from SAE HQ

http://www.sae.net/index.asp?r=newsr...=115&art_cat=2

UCFStefanie · #12 11-10-2006, 06:34 PM

LOL OK I am behind, just goes to show I am a slow reader.

fifi225 · #13 11-10-2006, 11:24 PM

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LOL OK I am behind, just goes to show I am a slow reader.

It's ok. I love yu anyway :P

sherbertlemons · #14 11-09-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf

ETA: With there being two vacant chapter houses on campus, I hope that Chi Omega will finally be able to get on-campus housing. Anyone who goes to UCF will (for the most part) agree that sorority housing should take priority over the fraternities.

Amen to that, sister!

FL-E1973, it's basically because recruitment is a nightmare for unhoused sororities there. The first word out of every girls mouth is "Why don't you have a house?" The housed sororities always make quota, while the unhoused ones have to struggle to make decent numbers.

I was once told by a GCer that the housed sororities were in trouble when the unhoused ones finally got houses. Basically, the reasoning was that we have to work really really hard for every small gain we make, while the housed sororities have it easy and make quota with no problem. And as a an alumna of an unhoused sorority at UCF, I agree with that statement.