Escondido, CA: Law stops renting to illegal immigrants

[RU OX Alum]

the entire conflict, little pissy remarks in the senate

the deep south sold out virginia,

virginia was punished during reconstruction way more so than any other state/commonwealth

here is what happened: the deep south wanted to keep slavery, but they couldn't say that so they seceded and New England said no, everyone had to stay, but that arguement lost sway so they said it was b/c of slavery.

Both states rights issues and slavery issues were involved, but I think it was just a pissing contest that got out of hand. Virginia wouldn't have seceded if not for the southern states interfering in our legislature.

ETA: Both sides used propaghanda to promote their side and make the other side look bad. This has been done for every war I've ever bothered to read up on, and probably on most of the ones that I haven't. Well, at least since propaganda was invented, it's been used in war.

[Eclipse]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

Can anybody provide a compelling reason why landlords should have a role in enforcing U.S. immigration laws? RC kind of touched on this, but I'm not convinced. Isn't this a case of the government being too lazy/incompetent to do its job and enforce its laws -- or, in the alternative, a futile attempt to do the impossible?

I am not sure if I can come up with a 'compelling' reason, but the government expects private businesses and individuals to do the same thing when they make it against the law to hire people not eligible to work in the US. I think the mindset is if a person does not have a job or a place to live what benefit will they receive when coming here?

Unfortunately, just like the laws regarding hiring illegal immigrants has not stopped some people from employing them, there will be a subset of folks who will still rent cars to them.

Here's an interesting article from Sunday's Atlanta Journal-Constitution

http://www.ajc.com/search/content/sh..._1022_COX.html

One quote:
This is the issue that could make her and other Arizona voters hypocrites, says Vicki Oligmueller.

Illegal immigrants "totally are ripping off" Phoenix-area hospitals, getting care without paying for it, she says. Plus, too many of them haven't learned English or they drive without auto insurance, she says.

But then Oligmueller confides that most of the people who work on her and her anesthetist husband's yard, maintain their pool and clean their suburban home are from south of the nearby Mexican border and don't speak English.

"Here we say we don't want them to come over and they are wrecking our hospitals, but we're all using them," says Oligmueller, a flight attendant who usually votes Republican.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

Can anybody provide a compelling reason why landlords should have a role in enforcing U.S. immigration laws? RC kind of touched on this, but I'm not convinced. Isn't this a case of the government being too lazy/incompetent to do its job and enforce its laws -- or, in the alternative, a futile attempt to do the impossible?

Government does things like this all the time. For example, employers have to help enforce the tax and social security laws by withholding employee contributions from paychecks and remitting them to the IRS. Merchants have to collect and remit sales taxes, even though the merchants are not the ones paying the sales taxes. It's not a matter of laziness or incompetence; it's a matter of allocation of resources and of who is in the best position to ensure compliance with the laws.

[Rudey]

Good. California could use less traffic and crimes and these landlords are just like the drivers of "Get away cars". Leave all that on the other side of the border.

-Rudey