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10-19-2006, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalGirl
Immigration policies on a National level I'm almost always willing to believe are not targeting Hispanics
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Dang, where do I get a pair of THOSE rose-colored glasses??
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10-19-2006, 12:57 PM
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Dang, where do I get a pair of THOSE rose-colored glasses??
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Yes, I realize it can be naive. It's just that I realize there's lots of illegals from plenty of other ethnicities. Plus, because of where I live, I don't so much think of Hispanics as immigrants (illegal or otherwise) as I think of them as just being a part of the community. :shrug: Honestly, when I hear "immigrant" I think Hispanics last. For some reason I think of European immigrants first!
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10-19-2006, 01:15 PM
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I really have no problem with this.
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10-20-2006, 09:55 AM
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I really have no problem with this.
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Me neither - no problem with this at all.
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10-20-2006, 12:07 PM
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Since Hispanics are our biggest miniroty, whether this is aimed at them or not, it will have a bigger overall effect on them as a group.
If enforced fairly, though, it will affect any undocumented person.
I guess the way I look at the whole situation is that "illegal" means just that and laws should be enforced. If a law is unfair (any law), get it changed. I know that's not easy, but the option is the kind of chaos that is present in our immigration system today.
People who are going through the process of attaining citizenship or getting the prescribed documents to live and/or work here are not "illegal," only the sometimes victims of what may be a difficult system.
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10-20-2006, 02:16 PM
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Since Hispanics are our biggest miniroty, whether this is aimed at them or not, it will have a bigger overall effect on them as a group.
If enforced fairly, though, it will affect any undocumented person.
I guess the way I look at the whole situation is that "illegal" means just that and laws should be enforced. If a law is unfair (any law), get it changed. I know that's not easy, but the option is the kind of chaos that is present in our immigration system today.
People who are going through the process of attaining citizenship or getting the prescribed documents to live and/or work here are not "illegal," only the sometimes victims of what may be a difficult system.
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It really does make me sad that a lot of illegal immigrants move here to better their life, and they really try. It's easy to say 'send them all back!' when you don't know what they'd be going back to.
The illegals that piss me off are the ones who don't work, who take advantage of the system and basically churn out babies while draining the government.
I'm legal and it's still really hard to get my citizenship. I'm aiming to get it before 2008 so I can help vote this administration out.
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10-20-2006, 02:22 PM
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I'm aiming to get it before 2008 so I can help vote this administration out.
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This administration will be out in January 2009 regardless of the 2008 election.
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10-20-2006, 02:24 PM
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I'm legal and it's still really hard to get my citizenship. I'm aiming to get it before 2008 so I can help vote this administration out.
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My parents got lucky when they got theirs because it was a major election year so they expedited everyone's oaperwork so that they could all become citizens and register to vote.
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10-20-2006, 02:53 PM
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It really does make me sad that a lot of illegal immigrants move here to better their life, and they really try. It's easy to say 'send them all back!' when you don't know what they'd be going back to.
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This is true, but "SEND THEM BACK THEY TOOK ERR JUBS DERB" isn't really the issue - it's really more that enforcement of immigration laws is incredibly difficult, and so 'alternate' methods like housing regulations, etc are about the only way to make any changes short of blowing up the entire system (which I would be in favor of, but slow change is probably the better motif here).
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10-20-2006, 03:43 PM
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It really does make me sad that a lot of illegal immigrants move here to better their life, and they really try. It's easy to say 'send them all back!' when you don't know what they'd be going back to.
The illegals that piss me off are the ones who don't work, who take advantage of the system and basically churn out babies while draining the government.
I'm legal and it's still really hard to get my citizenship. I'm aiming to get it before 2008 so I can help vote this administration out.
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Too bad. Their problems are not my problems. Well.. they're not my problems until these people move here seeking a better life, a welfare check, free medical care, clogging our criminal justice system, etc.
An illegal alien is an illegal alien. If they're so much as driving on my state's roads without paying the appropriate taxes, they are creating more problems than they're solving. Cheap labor is not that huge of a benefit considering what it costs society in the long run.
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10-20-2006, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by centaur532
It really does make me sad that a lot of illegal immigrants move here to better their life, and they really try. It's easy to say 'send them all back!' when you don't know what they'd be going back to.
The illegals that piss me off are the ones who don't work, who take advantage of the system and basically churn out babies while draining the government.
I'm legal and it's still really hard to get my citizenship. I'm aiming to get it before 2008 so I can help vote this administration out.
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RC touched on this, but I don't think this is really the feeling at all. It's just another idea in trying to stem off illegal immigration. The government feels like enlisting citizens in this way will help the effort.
Good luck in getting your citizenship - I think it's great that you're going through the process and going about things the right (and legal) way. I helped a friend of mine study for the citizenship exam in college, so that gave me a glimpse into the work people do to become citizens.
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10-19-2006, 01:32 PM
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Dang, where do I get a pair of THOSE rose-colored glasses??
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There are some parts of the country where the illegal immigrants aren't Hispanic.
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10-19-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy
There are some parts of the country where the illegal immigrants aren't Hispanic.
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I realize that, but in working with my husband's immigration papers lately, it's hard to NOT see the National policy that IS directed at Hispanics.
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10-19-2006, 01:41 PM
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Alpha, could it possibly be that national policy against illegal immigration is targetted at hispanics principally because the vast majority of illegals are hispanic?
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10-19-2006, 04:02 PM
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Alpha, could it possibly be that national policy against illegal immigration is targetted at hispanics principally because the vast majority of illegals are hispanic?
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I don't dispute that at all. I dispute the statement that SoCalGirl made about national policy not being directed at Hispanics.
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