Teen Lesbian kills mother of three in suicide attempt

[RACooper]

Originally Posted by laylo

Have you ever been severely clinically depressed? I agree that it is certainly not a courageous act, but this is a hugely overly simplistic assessment. Often suicide is about trying for years and years to "face their problems" without having the psychological tools to do so, and eventually coming to genuinely believe things cannot get better. Many also believe that they are nothing but a burden on their loved ones (particularly the elderly, who have the highest suicide rates). I know I'm off-topic now, but I had to comment.

Yes I have been severly depressed, back in the mid-90s following my UN deployment in Yugoslavia - it is but another aspect of PTSD.... and I still suffer from bouts of mild depression as a result of my CFS. That being said I still stick to my statement that suicide is the cowards way out.

[shinerbock]

She's being charged with felony murder, which depending on state law, allows for a charge of murder when a death incurs during the commission of a felony. The felony here is assault with a motor vehicle, I believe. She intentionally swerved into traffic, or so they're saying.

[Jimmy Choo]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

She's being charged with felony murder, which depending on state law, allows for a charge of murder when a death incurs during the commission of a felony. The felony here is assault with a motor vehicle, I believe. She intentionally swerved into traffic, or so they're saying.

Thanks! Like I said, I'm not one of the many lawyers or law students here on GC so I was kind of confused on how they arrived at murder. I always thought murder had to involve intent to harm that particular person. Since she didn't intend to kill that woman just herself I was kinda stunned with a murder charge.

[laylo]

Hopelessness and cowardice are simply not the same. When I was suicidal I was not afraid of my life or my problems. I couldn't be afraid of what I was already experiencing and had been experiencing for years. But I had tried to get help in every avenue possible and I wasn't getting it. Had I gotten help I would have gladly tried anything.

[cutie_cat_4ever]

Originally Posted by laylo

Hopelessness and cowardice are simply not the same. When I was suicidal I was not afraid of my life or my problems. I couldn't be afraid of what I was already experiencing and had been experiencing for years. But I had tried to get help in every avenue possible and I wasn't getting it. Had I gotten help I would have gladly tried anything.

I guess I could see that hopelessness does drive to suicide. I've heard tons of cases back in asia that families without any income are so desperate that they can't even put a meal on the table. So in the end, they will carbon monoxide the whole family so they don't have to suffer. I heard that was the most peaceful way to die. But it also aches me because it happens so often and there's no way they can get money anywhere...

But going back to this case, I can't really see hopelessness in this girl. It's more like revengence in a sense that if she dies, she hopes that the other girl will regret her entire life for not being with her. I may be wrong though...*shrugs*