Do most guys actually receive bids?

[UGAalum94]

I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I thought NPC rush was better. I actually like the freedom that fraternity rush gives groups as far as an acceptable range of membership size and control of recruitment.

I don't know of any campuses on which sororities aren't pressured to make quota, reach total or both.

But fraternities seem okay as long as membership stays large enough to be healthy in terms of future recruitment.

My last point was simply that it would be helpful for freshman men to know that at some (most?) campuses they are unlikely to get a bid if they go through rush without knowing people in the groups already.

Some guys might think that bids are extended based on how they present themselves during rush and might not know they really don't stand a chance of getting a bid if they don't know the guys already. (Particularly because the processes of IFC and NPC rush are presented pretty similarly on many greek life sites, even if it's clear that NPC is way more structured.)

If PNM guys knew that the groups were giving bids all year, then they would know to maybe attend a few things, meet some folks and develop friendships with group members, then maybe formally rush.

I'm just feeling bad for nice guys who would probably make good members but just don't know how it really works on their campus.

As long as you're at a school where guys from your high school attend or your dad attended, you probably understand the system and have connections. But if you go out of state and are one of few folks from your hometown, good luck!

[TSteven]

Alphagamuga: No need to apologize. I didn't take from your post that you thought NPC rush was better. However, in rereading my reply, it looked like I did. Sorry about that.

I really think your point is a very valid and important one.

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

My last point was simply that it would be helpful for freshman men to know that at some (most?) campuses they are unlikely to get a bid if they go through rush without knowing people in the groups already.

Some guys might think that bids are extended based on how they present themselves during rush and might not know they really don't stand a chance of getting a bid if they don't know the guys already. (Particularly because the processes of IFC and NPC rush are presented pretty similarly on many greek life sites, even if it's clear that NPC is way more structured.)

If PNM guys knew that the groups were giving bids all year, then they would know to maybe attend a few things, meet some folks and develop friendships with group members, then maybe formally rush.

I'm just feeling bad for nice guys who would probably make good members but just don't know how it really works on their campus.

As long as you're at a school where guys from your high school attend or your dad attended, you probably understand the system and have connections. But if you go out of state and are one of few folks from your hometown, good luck!

I would just add that both the IFC and the chapters need to do a better job with getting the word about rush. Doing so can help to elevate the number of potential members that a chapter might consider for a bid. To be clear, chapters should bid only those men that are good fits for the chapter. But it may also help to keep many of the "good fits" from slipping through the cracks.

One other point. I also believe that if a chapter doesn't want to have more than one rush a year, and it works for them, then more power to them. However, it just seems like many of the strong chapters do rush year round. Both formally and informally.

[shinerbock]

Well, obviously we look for different things...Regarding the question about size, I think it just depends. I think you could be a really good fraternity at 30-50 people, if you were extremely exclusive, had very high dues, etc...But you couldnt just decide to do it, it would take time to build an organization like that. I think 80-100 is a good number, at my campus...It allows for the average 30 man pledge class, with room to drop pledges and for the brothers who may drop or leave school or whatnot.

[**DU**]

So if i'm coming from another state to a new school and rushing to fraternities in the campus there is no way of me getting a bid because i don't know any of those guys even if i might be a great fit to that fraternity?

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by **DU**

So if i'm coming from another state to a new school and rushing to fraternities in the campus there is no way of me getting a bid because i don't know any of those guys even if i might be a great fit to that fraternity?

Yes, you could still get a bid from a chapter on campus. A lot depends on the chapter and location of where you are going. Many of the chapters and the larger southern schools will already have a good idea of who is getting bids due to summer rush parties. Does that me you have no chance? No. Go to the rush parties, talk yourself up (remember, you are selling you to them as much as them selling their chapter to you), and be open to all the different chapters on campus.

If it is a smaller southern school, being from out of state is not a problem at all. If anyone on here can give advice about the midwest, northeast, etc. please do so.

[**DU**]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

Yes, you could still get a bid from a chapter on campus. A lot depends on the chapter and location of where you are going. Many of the chapters and the larger southern schools will already have a good idea of who is getting bids due to summer rush parties. Does that me you have no chance? No. Go to the rush parties, talk yourself up (remember, you are selling you to them as much as them selling their chapter to you), and be open to all the different chapters on campus.

If it is a smaller southern school, being from out of state is not a problem at all. If anyone on here can give advice about the midwest, northeast, etc. please do so.

It's a californian school.

[**DU**]

Here are the numbers i found for my school's IFC:

School: San Diego State University
Number of Rushees at the first event: 500+
Number of Rushees at the house tours: 330
Number of Bids Given: 475

It seems to me like almost everyone who rushed got bids, but some people received more than one.

[madmax]

I would guess that most receive bids unless they are real tools or have a last names like Dorfman.

[GreekHoodies]

If a dude wants to be in a fraternity bad enough: he can be. There are usually enough "fringe" houses that will take anybody just to boost numbers or have a warm body to pick up cups after a party.

That said, the best scenarios are when both parties choose each other. Like 2 dogs sniffing each other out, they both have to be in agreement. They mutually select one another. The fraternity selects it's pledges and hopefully the rushees pick the same house. Any other situation and one likes another more than the other and it's not balanced...all in all...we used to give out bids to about 50% of the people who rushed...

[Tom Earp]

As GreekHoodies said, it is a feeling out process between the Chapter members and the possible rushee. If neither feels comfortable then, it will not work.

No, not everyone will get a bid.

Just knowing someone in the chapter will not garuntee anything. But, it will help.

Alot depends on the size of the chapter and how selective they wish to be.

As far as "tools", there have been many marginal new members who have gone to outstanding members for the chapter, the organization, and the country.

[dark962001]

does anybody know anything about rushing Alpha Phi Alpha (particularly the theta sigma chapter at UF). How long is the pledge period? What does one have to do while pledgeing? When is the next possible time to rush them?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by dark962001

does anybody know anything about rushing Alpha Phi Alpha (particularly the theta sigma chapter at UF). How long is the pledge period? What does one have to do while pledgeing? When is the next possible time to rush them?

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