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			Grand Valley Sigma Pi- 
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				i have a short attention span, so i didnt make it thru all 4 pages of replies, so if someone already said this, i apologize.  
 
many chapters across the nation have ways of keeping members out of their organizations through the new member votes. depending on how presigious your organization is (im talking recognition within your national/international organization or on campus, not just how awsome you think your chapter is), you can take steps to developing much stricter means of member selection.  
 
The privledges of being a greek is being selective. Some are moreso than others. A few chapters within my organization have chapters that turn away pledges if they receive as little as 3 no votes, maybe even less. My mind comes to a chapter we have down south with over 90 active members. Our chapter averages about 40 members, and if any pledge receives 5 no votes, they don't get in.  
 
So, if this girl does end up rushing, make sure you come up with a tactful argument against this girl's character, and do it in such a way that it stirs up enough dissention that will fulfill your denial of membership requirement. 
 
God i love being selective. 
			
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 Your signature:
 Sigma Pi  
Building a New Generation of Leaders 
 
Founding Father, 
Theta Rho Chapter,  
Grand Valley State University 
 
Since our founding day on 10/26/03, we went from awsome colony to a Top 3 Chapter in our region, and a top 12 chapter in the Sigma Pi Nation. What has your chapter done the last three years? 
 
I believe.
I am an alumna, but I hope that my collegiate chapter has learned to type and spell in the past 3 years.  (Hint:  awEsome, not awsome)
 
That is great that you are proud of your chapter and I am sure you and your brothers have worked very hard.  I am not one of the "snarky" posters on GC, but when you have a signature and a post as arrogant as these, and you bait other greeks with "what has your chapter done...", you open yourself up to criticism. 
 
And, very uncool to be so indiscreet about membership selection and voting.  Obviously I am not an IFC member nor am I a Sigma Pi, so I don't know if that is considered ritual or not, but it seems improper.
 
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				And, very uncool to be so indiscreet about membership selection and voting.  Obviously I am not an IFC member nor am I a Sigma Pi, so I don't know if that is considered ritual or not, but it seems improper. 
			
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 I get the impression that in many IFCs, info about MS, such as how many votes it takes to pledge/depledge someone is not ritual-type info.  We had an advisor in my college chapter that was a Kappa Alpha Order, and he stated many times that most KA Orders are "one ball chapters"...meaning one "no" vote, and you don't get a bid.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I get the impression that in many IFCs, info about MS, such as how many votes it takes to pledge/depledge someone is not ritual-type info.  We had an advisor in my college chapter that was a Kappa Alpha Order, and he stated many times that most KA Orders are "one ball chapters"...meaning one "no" vote, and you don't get a bid. 
			
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				I get the impression that in many IFCs, info about MS, such as how many votes it takes to pledge/depledge someone is not ritual-type info.  We had an advisor in my college chapter that was a Kappa Alpha Order, and he stated many times that most KA Orders are "one ball chapters"...meaning one "no" vote, and you don't get a bid. 
			
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 This type of information could be (maybe still) found on some fraternity's inter/national websites.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				 We had an advisor in my college chapter that was a Kappa Alpha Order, and he stated many times that most KA Orders are "one ball chapters"...meaning one "no" vote, and you don't get a bid. 
			
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 That's what he wanted you to think.  LOL.  Sorry, but that one was too easy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				And, very uncool to be so indiscreet about membership selection and voting.  Obviously I am not an IFC member nor am I a Sigma Pi, so I don't know if that is considered ritual or not, but it seems improper. 
 
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 Just curious.  GLOs have the prerogative to make this known.  So why shouldn't they be up front with this type information?  Other than the usual "membership selection is ritual, should not be public, blah blah blah", why would this be uncool and improper?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				Just curious.  GLOs have the prerogative to make this known.  So why shouldn't they be up front with this type information?  Other than the usual "membership selection is ritual, should not be public, blah blah blah", why would this be uncool and improper? 
			
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 It's not uncool or improper.  Many fraternities have this information in their Constitutions, By-Laws, General Regulations or the like, which they make available on-line.  We've had the discussion here before -- it seems to be one of the cultural differences between (NPC) sororities and (NIC and some non-NIC) fraternities.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				It's not uncool or improper.  Many fraternities have this information in their Constitutions, By-Laws, General Regulations or the like, which they make available on-line.  We've had the discussion here before -- it seems to be one of the cultural differences between (NPC) sororities and (NIC and some non-NIC) fraternities. 
			
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 Maybe that's the difference because I am    that I have read so many details about what other NPC chapters do for "no recs" or whatever they have called them. I think this has drifted over into details of MS for some people that are posting. Sounds like the OP needs to have a PM discussion with texas*princess, honeychile, and/or adpiucf & let this thread be gone in GL. Maybe head over to D&R and ask the question about who's more to "blame" the "cheater" or the "cheatee" -- that sounds like a better topic for people to debate   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I really don't see what the big deal is.  There is an Alpha Phi at another school who I realllllly dislike but I never would've thought of putting in a bad word about her to her chapter.  As long as the girl isn't in my chapter, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				That's what he wanted you to think.  LOL.  Sorry, but that one was too easy. 
			
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 some chapters at my school were like that, a lot were actually
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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