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[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

This is a message board, not an authority on anything.
Another reason there should not be an AI forum on GC.

Glad you brought that up. If it's not an authority on anything, and that is why you are saying GC doesn't need an AI forum, then why do you need collegiate recruitment forums?

I mean, why should someone be able to come online and find out what they need to wear to recruitment events, and solicit recommendation letters from strangers online, told how to act, how not to act, what to say, what not to say. Leave them on their own to figure that out, or tell them that is what their Rush Counselor is for.

Wouldn't that be a disservice to PNM's everywhere who don't realize that they are getting unauthorized information?

The shame!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Glad you brought that up. If it's not an authority on anything, and that is why you are saying GC doesn't need an AI forum, then why do you need collegiate recruitment forums?

I mean, why should someone be able to come online and find out what they need to wear to recruitment events, and solicit recommendation letters from strangers online, told how to act, how not to act, what to say, what not to say. Leave them on their own to figure that out, or tell them that is what their Rush Counselor is for.

Wouldn't that be a disservice to PNM's everywhere who don't realize that they are getting unauthorized information?

The shame!

AI IS NOT RECRUITMENT

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

AI IS NOT RECRUITMENT

Just put it in the sig. Easier that way.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Just put it in the sig. Easier that way.

I might have to, because it seems that some people need that reminder every 4 posts or so.

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Glad you brought that up. If it's not an authority on anything, and that is why you are saying GC doesn't need an AI forum, then why do you need collegiate recruitment forums?

Recruitment is an annual open event. AI is not. And GC PNMs are told to contact their universities to verify any information they receive from GC.

If you truly desire to be a sorority woman, I find it hard to understand why you refuse to comprehend that we as sororities have a method and a way of doing things, and that these things are done for a reason. It isn't for you to question our system or say that it must be changed simply because you don't agree with it. If you so dislike how sororities do things, perhaps you should not desire to be a part of such an organization with its many policies and rules. You may enjoy a more liberal type of organization where no one is subject to fitting in and following rules.

[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

Recruitment is an annual open event. AI is not. And GC PNMs are told to contact their universities to verify any information they receive from GC.

If you truly desire to be a sorority woman, I find it hard to understand why you refuse to comprehend that we as sororities have a method and a way of doing things, and that these things are done for a reason. It isn't for you to question our system or say that it must be changed simply because you don't agree with it. If you so dislike how sororities do things, perhaps you should not desire to be a part of such an organization with its many policies and rules. You may enjoy a more liberal type of organization where no one is subject to fitting in and following rules.

I never stated that I disliked the way sororites did things. My objections here are regarding how INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS are interpreting their GLO's wishes. That isn't the same thing as disagreeing with the organization.

I also never said that AI is an open event.

Honestly, if you are going to keep making statements that I don't make and pull generalities that aren't even suggested, let alone stated, I'm going to have to put you on ignore.

I understand the process perfectly, and what suprises me, is your posts suggests that you know how every other GLO works, and if all of that is ritual (as you have previously stated), who would be giving you this information?

The fact is, you don't, as I previously stated.

You can't keep going back and forth as to what is and isn't ritual b/c it isn't supporting your argument at the time you post it.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

I never stated that I disliked the way sororites did things. My objections here are regarding how INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS are interpreting their GLO's wishes. That isn't the same thing as disagreeing with the organization.

I also never said that AI is an open event.

Honestly, if you are going to keep making statements that I don't make and pull generalities that aren't even suggested, let alone stated, I'm going to have to put you on ignore.

I understand the process perfectly, and what suprises me, is your posts suggests that you know how every other GLO works, and if all of that is ritual (as you have previously stated), who would be giving you this information?

The fact is, you don't, as I previously stated.

You can't keep going back and forth as to what is and isn't ritual b/c it isn't supporting your argument at the time you post it.

No, you didn't say that AI is an open event. But you did say that the recruitment forum shouldn't exist for the same reason the AI forum shouldn't exist.
You basically said (I'm not saying you did say, don't get me wrong, this is my interpretation) that this forum is a great resource for information. If we close it we need to close the undergrad recruitment forum. The difference, though, is that you can get recruitment information from a thousand different places all over the internet, because it is so open. If this forum is closed, where does the info come from? Nowhere, unless the correct channels are used.
This forum gave recent posters false hope that they too could be in a sorority. Even if they knew the hurdles, they were still contacting five different groups at the same time.
This forum should stay if we establish the following:
1. AI exists.
2. It's difficult and no one here is going to help you get started, you need to figure that out on your own.
3. These ladies are already midway through their journeys, this is where they post.

Any thread that even hints of 'help me do this plz!' quandry should be squashed immediately.

[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by centaur532

No, you didn't say that AI is an open event. But you did say that the recruitment forum shouldn't exist for the same reason the AI forum shouldn't exist.
You basically said (I'm not saying you did say, don't get me wrong, this is my interpretation) that this forum is a great resource for information. If we close it we need to close the undergrad recruitment forum. The difference, though, is that you can get recruitment information from a thousand different places all over the internet, because it is so open. If this forum is closed, where does the info come from? Nowhere, unless the correct channels are used.
This forum gave recent posters false hope that they too could be in a sorority. Even if they knew the hurdles, they were still contacting five different groups at the same time.
This forum should stay if we establish the following:
1. AI exists.
2. It's difficult and no one here is going to help you get started, you need to figure that out on your own.
3. These ladies are already midway through their journeys, this is where they post.

Any thread that even hints of 'help me do this plz!' quandry should be squashed immediately.

Actually, (and I say this very kindly...in all seriousness) you did misinterpret why I said the college recruitment forums should be disbanded if the AI forums were.

One of the major arguments against the AI is that someone could "possibly" get inaccurate information, because they don't know who they are getting it from. They also said that it wasn't an "official" forum.

The sorority recruitment forum has the exact same issues. How does a college women know she is getting accurate information on the board? If she posts in a GLO she is interested in, how does she even know that the posts she is reading are from actual members, or imposters?

The sorority recruitment forum isn't official either, so why are these women so readily helped (and if they are interested in a specific sorority, they are often assisted in finding their way home with recs solicited on the internet, etc).

Why aren't they told that they need to have these discussions with their recruitment counselor? Isn't that what she is there for? To explain how recruitment works, give wardrobe advice, etc?

I don't see how the two are different. Both are not official.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Actually, (and I say this very kindly...in all seriousness) you did misinterpret why I said the college recruitment forums should be disbanded if the AI forums were.

One of the major arguments against the AI is that someone could "possibly" get inaccurate information, because they don't know who they are getting it from. They also said that it wasn't an "official" forum.

The sorority recruitment forum has the exact same issues. How does a college women know she is getting accurate information on the board? If she posts in a GLO she is interested in, how does she even know that the posts she is reading are from actual members, or imposters?

The sorority recruitment forum isn't official either, so why are these women so readily helped (and if they are interested in a specific sorority, they are often assisted in finding their way home with recs solicited on the internet, etc).

Why aren't they told that they need to have these discussions with their recruitment counselor? Isn't that what she is there for? To explain how recruitment works, give wardrobe advice, etc?

I don't see how the two are different. Both are not official.

You also missed the part where I said that even without GC, a PNM can still get the information she's seeking anywhere else on the internet. You can't do that for AI.
GC is treated like a greek wikipedia. For the most part, the information is accurate, but you don't know for sure. The reason PNMs are so readily helped is because recruitment is an open event and the main mode of intake for GLOs. AI isn't. Did you find anywhere else that provided AI information when you were looking on the internet?

[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by centaur532

You also missed the part where I said that even without GC, a PNM can still get the information she's seeking anywhere else on the internet. You can't do that for AI.
GC is treated like a greek wikipedia. For the most part, the information is accurate, but you don't know for sure. The reason PNMs are so readily helped is because recruitment is an open event and the main mode of intake for GLOs. AI isn't. Did you find anywhere else that provided AI information when you were looking on the internet?

Well, maybe Wikipedia needs to have AI defined there instead of here.