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Old 10-16-2006, 02:43 PM
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It's "hearsay" not "here-say". Guess your copy editor would fix that for you back when you reported on legal happenings.

I know very few people who make "speeches" on the internet, and none of them are international officers.

I'm not sure if any of them posted publicly about it, and I don't have the time to search. You are more than welcome to look for them on your own.

The process of selecting members for AI is private membership information, yes. A group being inundated with inquiries because of GC isn't part of that process.
Kddani, I have never admitted to being a good speller.. which is why I went into broadcast journalism instead of print!

As for "speeches on the internet".. here ya go:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/default....&ContentId=118

When you make an allegation as powerful as you have made, you really need to be able to back it up. If you can't then "let it be stricken from the record."
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:50 PM
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Kddani, I have never admitted to being a good speller.. which is why I went into broadcast journalism instead of print!

As for "speeches on the internet".. here ya go:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/default....&ContentId=118

When you make an allegation as powerful as you have made, you really need to be able to back it up. If you can't then "let it be stricken from the record."
And as for open AI information even on your own GLO's web site?

None, nada, zip, zilch, ZERO! Which goes back to this previous point:

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several NPC sororities have taken public information about AI down from their websites,

So go ahead & let the conversation derail off into whether or not speeches are published on the internet, but we'll know its because your original argument is null & void.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:58 PM
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And as for open AI information even on your own GLO's web site?

None, nada, zip, zilch, ZERO! Which goes back to this previous point:
This just proves my point. There was no info on the website, and fortunately, I found GC so that I could ask questions of others here in the AI forum.


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So go ahead & let the conversation derail off into whether or not speeches are published on the internet, but we'll know its because your original argument is null & void.
Derailing?
I was simply showing Kddani that she was incorrect in her allegation that there are no speeches posted on the internet. If you are going to make a very strong allegation about what an international officer said, you must be prepared to back that up. I would like to see a speech in which one of these officers said such a thing.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:52 PM
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Kddani, I have never admitted to being a good speller.. which is why I went into broadcast journalism instead of print!

As for "speeches on the internet".. here ya go:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/default....&ContentId=118

When you make an allegation as powerful as you have made, you really need to be able to back it up. If you can't then "let it be stricken from the record."
Wait a minute...broadcast journalism? I thought you were an astronaut
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:55 PM
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Kddani, I have never admitted to being a good speller.. which is why I went into broadcast journalism instead of print!

As for "speeches on the internet".. here ya go:
http://www.zetataualpha.org/default....&ContentId=118

When you make an allegation as powerful as you have made, you really need to be able to back it up. If you can't then "let it be stricken from the record."
That's nice that ZTA has that video up but that's not really relevant to our discussion.

I didn't make an "allegation". I made a statement based on information that multiple officers of various orgs have made in various places. I am not going to search all of GC to find something for you to argue further about. If you're interested, you can find it yourself.

Of course you don't believe me. I could tell you that the apple sitting on my desk is red and you'd accuse me of lying. But I do know that my word is good enough for many people on GC. I don't personally care whether or not you believe me. Even if you don't believe me, then use it as a hypothetical. What if what I said was true? Then what would you say?
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:58 PM
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Another problem with getting AI information off GC as opposed to an official source is that you never know who's giving it to you. I'm not in an NPC sorority, and pretty much all of the posters on here know that. However, tomorrow, a new poster could register, post that she wants to AI and ask for help, and I could theoretically pm her with "information" about TPA (picking a sorority at random) and pretending to be a sister, and she'd take my pm as gospel because she wouldn't know better.
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:59 PM
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Another problem with getting AI information off GC as opposed to an official source is that you never know who's giving it to you. I'm not in an NPC sorority, and pretty much all of the posters on here know that. However, tomorrow, a new poster could register, post that she wants to AI and ask for help, and I could theoretically pm her with "information" about TPA (picking a sorority at random) and pretending to be a sister, and she'd take my pm as gospel because she wouldn't know better.
I do feel though that as the askers of information, they should be responsible for determining its veracity.
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Old 10-16-2006, 03:09 PM
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Another problem with getting AI information off GC as opposed to an official source is that you never know who's giving it to you. I'm not in an NPC sorority, and pretty much all of the posters on here know that. However, tomorrow, a new poster could register, post that she wants to AI and ask for help, and I could theoretically pm her with "information" about TPA (picking a sorority at random) and pretending to be a sister, and she'd take my pm as gospel because she wouldn't know better.
Gah, I said this (quite eloquently and with a beautiful analogy I might add) a few pages back. GC is like wikipedia. No one should use it as an absolute authoritative resource for anything.
It's easier to go here for undergrad recruitment advice because that's a unified policy and even people who aren't greek have some semblence of an idea what you should or shouldn't do during recruitment. But AI is not common and even greeks don't always know, in fact this is proven in many threads.
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Old 10-16-2006, 03:15 PM
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That's nice that ZTA has that video up but that's not really relevant to our discussion.

I didn't make an "allegation". I made a statement based on information that multiple officers of various orgs have made in various places. I am not going to search all of GC to find something for you to argue further about. If you're interested, you can find it yourself.

Of course you don't believe me. I could tell you that the apple sitting on my desk is red and you'd accuse me of lying. But I do know that my word is good enough for many people on GC. I don't personally care whether or not you believe me. Even if you don't believe me, then use it as a hypothetical. What if what I said was true? Then what would you say?
Sure it's relevant. You said that there were no speeches on the internet from international officers.. and I proved there are. So why am I now to believe that your alleged officers said what they said without any proof when you were already wrong on one of your alleged "facts?" Telling me to find it myself is a cop out. The burden of proof is on you. You made the allegation, you need to source it.
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