Your thoughts on AI: discussion goes here.

[tunatartare]

Originally Posted by blueangel

Fair enough. And why do you think that? What do you think of Drolefille's points?

The AI subforum has given off the impression that all of the sororities do AI and are accepting of it. For many sororities this is not the case. Since membership selection info is ritual, it is impossible for one person to know the AI policies of all 26 sororities, therefore it is better to nip any potential AI "Search" in the bud and tell the PNAM to contact the proper channels. If you don't do that there will be threads "Hi my name is Lauren. I'm 37 years old and I'm from Minnesota and I just found GC today searching for Vera bags. I didn't go to college but I'd love to be in a sorority now. After reading the forum, I have decided to contact Fendi, Prada, Kate Spade, Louis Vuitton, Herve Chapelier, Longchamp, Gucci about AI."

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by centaur532

I am not well-versed on D9 intake, especially when it comes to post-grads. Can a D-9er elucidate the process a little? Is it like AI in any way?

I'm not the best at it either, but I was under the impression it was much like their undergraduate intake. I base this on comments from women who stated if they hadn't joined during college they would have pursued post-graduation.
Someone please correct if I'm wrong.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

The AI subforum has given off the impression that all of the sororities do AI and are accepting of it. For many sororities this is not the case. Since membership selection info is ritual, it is impossible for one person to know the AI policies of all 26 sororities, therefore it is better to nip any potential AI "Search" in the bud and tell the PNAM to contact the proper channels. If you don't do that there will be threads "Hi my name is Lauren. I'm 37 years old and I'm from Minnesota and I just found GC today searching for Vera bags. I didn't go to college but I'd love to be in a sorority now. After reading the forum, I have decided to contact Fendi, Prada, Kate Spade, Louis Vuitton, Herve Chapelier, Longchamp, Gucci about AI."

WORD to your mom, I came to drop bombs. Exactly.

[tunatartare]

I <3 you.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by blueangel

If you want to put me on ignore, that's fine.. but I can point out your posts if I want to. It's not against the TOS.

And, for the record, I happen to agree with your points here.

I am requesting that you not do so. I never threatened you with the TOS. I do not care what your opinions are, and want to make it clear that I do not want my opinions associated with yours.

[ReachTheLimit]

But you are completely ignoring the fact that many sororities do welcome AI's and don't mind if they are contacted first by a PNM.

As another poster said earlier in this thread, the fact of whether or not they do AI is not ritual, HOW they select who they AI and who they don't, IS ritual.

If this information was ritual, then why was it listed in the sticky at the top of the AI forum?

You don't have to read two posts in this entire forum before someone makes reference to how long AI takes and how difficult it is. How in the world that you can say this gives the impression, I would love for you to find where someone posted that it was.

But wait, that might require accurate research. Nevermind.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

The AI subforum has given off the impression that all of the sororities do AI and are accepting of it. For many sororities this is not the case. Since membership selection info is ritual, it is impossible for one person to know the AI policies of all 26 sororities, therefore it is better to nip any potential AI "Search" in the bud and tell the PNAM to contact the proper channels. If you don't do that there will be threads "Hi my name is Lauren. I'm 37 years old and I'm from Minnesota and I just found GC today searching for Vera bags. I didn't go to college but I'd love to be in a sorority now. After reading the forum, I have decided to contact Fendi, Prada, Kate Spade, Louis Vuitton, Herve Chapelier, Longchamp, Gucci about AI."

OK.. I understand that. And I've seen GC'ers suggest to PNAIs that they contact the proper channels. That's what the information exchange is about. When these thread DO pop up.. then it would be a good time for people to chime in about what AI is and how that's not appropriate.

These types of posts are relatively rare in the grand scheme of things. As I pointed out before.. it's not as if the floodgates have opened. There are just a handful or so of people who have posted that they are seeking AI on this forum. Why is it you perceive that it is? I'm also curious about something else.. does your local do AI?

[tunatartare]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

You don't have to read two posts in this entire forum before someone makes reference to how long AI takes and how difficult it is. How in the world that you can say this gives the impression, I would love for you to find where someone posted that it was.

But wait, that might require accurate research. Nevermind.

Read some of the older AI threads. The AI process took LouisaMay over 3 years.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

But you are completely ignoring the fact that many sororities do welcome AI's and don't mind if they are contacted first by a PNM.

If that is the case with some sororities, then let it be...you don't have to advertise it all over GC that these sororities might welcome AIs. I don't think that headquarters (or whoever) is asking people on GC "please advertise that we do AIs so that we can get swarms of people asking about it"

If people want to go through AI...let them, but they have to do it in the appropriate way. I don't think seeing all these stories about how women "shopped around" is helping any.

[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Since you're not a member...

I think she's more privy to what ADPi does and doesn't do. You needn't tell her about it.

It was posted for weeks at the top of the GC forum in the sticky and Alpha Delta Pi was specifically listed as one of the sororities that "only did AI in certain circumstances" versus a whole other list of "yes".

One would think that a list posted in a sticky by the moderator would be accurate.

[Jen]

I think the D9 issue isn't that AI and intake are similar, but that the D9 forums have a very efficient way of dealing with membership inquiries and that is what should be used in the AI forum.

[greekalum]

Originally Posted by Adelphean

I will say I agree though. I don't want crazy people in my org, so perhaps all NPC groups should do away with mutual selection and hand pick each woman they want. That would, I'm sure, have a negatory effect on the number of "crazies" in each org. Then, do away with AI, and that solves another problem.

You do realize mutual selection does not mean "sororities have to take women they don't want who want them," right?

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I am requesting that you not do so. I never threatened you with the TOS. I do not care what your opinions are, and want to make it clear that I do not want my opinions associated with yours.

I'm sorry if it makes you uncomfortable that we share similar thoughts on this subject. As we discuss this subject.. if it involves your points, then I may quote them if they apply to the subject at hand, as I'm allowed to do on this forum.

[ReachTheLimit]

On the same token, I don't think any AI member said anything about "Oh yeah, contact XYZ because the process was a breeze for me"

I would challenge you to find a post that makes that reference for a women that had no previous ties.

The only people on the GC boards that are making those statements, oddly enough, are NOT AI's.

[Jen]

Oh, I've had some PMs from PNAMs asking if it was true that certain sororities were easier to AI into because they had more AI members here on GC.