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			"Alcohol free" makes them sound like the entire Greek system just joined AA...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I actually know of one fraternity that on the international level discourages all of its members from drinking. Whether or not they actually follow that is a whole other story.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				10-13-2006, 03:50 PM
			
			
			
		  
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				I actually know of one fraternity that on the international level discourages all of its members from drinking. Whether or not they actually follow that is a whole other story. 
			
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 Which international fraternity?
 
Discouraging members from drinking is totally different than a rule prohibiting it.  "Alcohol free" generally speaks to living environments and not what members may do legally.  Theta Chi has a good alcohol free housing initiative. (see below)  Other fraternities have something similar.  And yet other fraternities - who do not have an alcohol free housing initiative - prefer to focus on alcohol-awareness education.  However, specific chapters may have something similar to Theta Chi's initiative.  (Might be campus mandated or adapted by the specific chapter.)  In any case, neither situation prohibit members from drinking legally.
 Alcohol Free Housing
(from the Theta Chi website)
WHAT DOES ALCOHOL FREE MEAN?
 
The [Theta Chi] Fraternity's Alcohol Free Housing Initiative does not attempt to tell our members not to drink or enforce a "prohibition" policy on our chapters. Members, of legal age, are entitled to their rights as 21 year-olds to consume alcohol, just not on chapter property. 
 
Alcohol fee housing means there will be no consumption or storage of alcohol on property owned and/or leased by the Fraternity. Annex houses, undeveloped property, and houses rented by individual members for use by the Fraternity are subject to alcohol-free policies. Social events held at the chapter house may not involve alcohol. If a chapter wishes to have alcohol at a social event, that event must take place at an approved third-party location (i.e. restaurant, club, lodge/hall) All chapter functions are still expected to meet the standards of the Fraternity's risk management policy.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
			
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
	
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				10-13-2006, 05:38 PM
			
			
			
		  
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			I had no idea that calling other groups "houses" was weird until after I graduated and came here.  It was what everyone always said on campus.  It was never "which sorority did you join" but "which house did you join."  I agree that they need to not say that anymore.  But it is nice to have a somewhat positive article in the Cigar about Greeks.  Usually it's nothing or bad stuff, like a fraternity being kicked off campus.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Many if not all propose Non Alcholic=Dry Houses ie GLOs, but there are codicles?) about how to go about it. 
 
Being not in the House, but not at an outside place. 
 
Does not mean they do not imbibe.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				10-13-2006, 06:02 PM
			
			
			
		  
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			^Many, if not all?? Where did you get that from? There are countless numbers of fraternities that have houses which permit alcohol.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				10-13-2006, 06:53 PM
			
			
			
		  
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				^Many, if not all?? Where did you get that from? There are countless numbers of fraternities that have houses which permit alcohol. 
			
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Interesting that you posted that?
 
Does Your GLO say anywhere that Alcohol is allowed in Your Buildings? (Houses).
 
Or do they say other wise?
 
If they say otherwise, then post the link.
 
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			Tom, mccallan25 is right. 
 
This is the list of IFC/NIC fraternities that have some sort of fraternity wide alcohol-free housing.  This list may be out of date and there may be more fraternities to add. 
 
Alpha Kappa Lambda 
Delta Sigma Phi 
Delta Upsilon 
FarmHouse 
Kappa Delta Phi 
Phi Delta Theta 
Phi Gamma Delta 
Phi Kappa Sigma 
Phi Kappa Theta 
Sigma Nu 
Theta Chi 
 
To be clear, other fraternities may have chapters that are alcohol free.  And heck, the majority of their chapters might be alcohol free.  However, as far as a fraternity-wide policy, there aren't that many.  And just to add, it doesn't mean that ever chapter of the fraternities listed above abide by the policy.  Also, some of the fraternities may have a clause that allows a chapter to opt out of the policy.  I seem to recall that was possible for one (maybe more?) of the fraternities.  I just can't remember which specific fraternity.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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				"Alcohol free" makes them sound like the entire Greek system just joined AA... 
			
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 I'm surprised nobody has thought of that...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Sigma Pi recently updated its stance on FIPG Standards this summer at our convocation in an effort to deter stupid FIPG (generally drinking) violations [open source parties, etc].  
 
The first FIPG violation results in a $500 fine to the chapter, the second fine is $1000 and the third violation results in a review hearing to discuss whether the charter should be revoked.  
 
 
Of course, offenses expire after four years, but even so, these are very stringent punishments levied onto the chapters. I feel that the intent of our change of FIPG is established to deter universities from removing chapters after ONE FIPG violation. (hopefully)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
	
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