After being initiated, transfering and joining another soro

[AChiOhSnap]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Really? I can't imagine my school's registrar office bothering to note my extracurriculars on my transcript...well, in fact I know they didn't, because I've seen my transcript. Is this really common?

Hmmmm... well that's just what my school does, and that's how another school found out (albeit after the fact) that one crazy PNM was indeed initiated into an NPC sorority at the school she transferred from. Someone just missed her record of membership in her file when they were registering her for formal recruitment. I don't actually think it's written on the transcript proper, but a part of the general transfer packet of materials sent from one school to another (along with health records, discipline records, etc.)

Maybe it's more common at smaller schools... I dunno.

I also know my formal recruitment application had a place for me to sign that I had never been initiated as a member of another NPC and a place to give my SSN#, so I figured there was some sort of background check. Maybe some places do check up on it and some others don't.

[violetpretty]

If she still wants to be involved in the Greek Community at her new school, maybe she could get in contact with the Panhellenic Association and be a Rho Chi/Rho Gamma/Gamma Chi/Pi Chi/Sigma Rho Chi/whatever this school calls it. She'd be able to meet women in other chapters and she'd be the ultimate in being unbiased for the PNMs because her sorority does not have a chapter there. If she joined an NPC sorority, then that would be the most involved she could be in the Greek Community. If she joined a local at her old school, then she is allowed to go through recruitment.

[BadSquirrelBeta]

If she (or any young woman for that matter) was involved with a Beta Sigma Phi chapter on a college campus, which identifies and operates much like an active GL group on campus, she could seek membership in an NPC org.--pretty much the same as a local -OR- on the flip side, if she was in an NPC she could check out BSP, ESA or any of the other orgs discussed in the "joining a sorority" after college thread...perhaps there would be a fit for her there.

Alumnae Panhellenic may be an option for her too, if there is one, considering she left her former chapter in good standing.

Hope she can find a fit. And there of couse is nothing wrong with looking into membership in non-lettered campus clubs, organizations, etc., where friends can be made too!

[KerriMarie]

I can't imagine switching schools and wanting to get involved with any sorority other than Kappa - not after I've been through the initiation and ritual - maybe it doesn't mean as much to some people as it does to me - but I didn't say "I'm going to be a Kappa for the next short part of my life, then maybe I'll be a Zeta for a while... oooh, and DeeZee sounds cool..."

[alphagamgirlie]

Originally Posted by JessSigKap

If she still wants to be involved in the Greek Community at her new school, maybe she could get in contact with the Panhellenic Association and be a Rho Chi/Rho Gamma/Gamma Chi/Pi Chi/Sigma Rho Chi/whatever this school calls it. She'd be able to meet women in other chapters and she'd be the ultimate in being unbiased for the PNMs because her sorority does not have a chapter there. If she joined an NPC sorority, then that would be the most involved she could be in the Greek Community. If she joined a local at her old school, then she is allowed to go through recruitment.

If your school allows that, consider yourself lucky. At my school, a group of us AGDs & Phi Mus & Sigma Kappas 2 years ago tried to be Rho Gammas, and the school's Greek advisor had said that Panhellenic recruitment rules doesn't allow girls from nonexistent sororities (neither of us 3 organizations have ever been at our new school) to be Rho Gammas.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by alphagamgirlie

If your school allows that, consider yourself lucky. At my school, a group of us AGDs & Phi Mus & Sigma Kappas 2 years ago tried to be Rho Gammas, and the school's Greek advisor had said that Panhellenic recruitment rules doesn't allow girls from nonexistent sororities (neither of us 3 organizations have ever been at our new school) to be Rho Gammas.

wow, I can understand what she meant, but what an unnecessarily harsh way to put it!! Not only that, I'm not altogether sure that she's right.

Originally Posted by 33girl

wow, I can understand what she meant, but what an unnecessarily harsh way to put it!! Not only that, I'm not altogether sure that she's right.

I'm sure the UCF Greeks can chime in here and know the Greek Life advisor personally, but I find it hard to believe that an advisor would use the term "nonexistant sororities." Sororities not represented on campus maybe, but definitely not a "you can't be a Rho Gamma because your sorority's nonexistant."

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[TrueBlueKappa]

Originally Posted by OTW

I'm sure the UCF Greeks can chime in here and know the Greek Life advisor personally, but I find it hard to believe that an advisor would use the term "nonexistant sororities." Sororities not represented on campus maybe, but definitely not a "you can't be a Rho Gamma because your sorority's nonexistant."

Summer breeze...makes me feel fiiiiiiine.

Since I don't get many chances to be the token Knight, I'll chime in to say that it sounds implausible.

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by TrueBlueKappa

Since I don't get many chances to be the token Knight, I'll chime in to say that it sounds implausible.

Agreed. Those words would simply not be used. Also, the purpose of a Rho Gamma is to help serve as an impartial guide to introduce a PNM to the university's Greek System. Someone who is a transfer/non-affiliate is not familiar with the inner workings of the new campus's Greek System. Also there's no way to keep tabs on these recruitment counselors-- any infractions they commit are going to come down to them and hearsay-- their sorority chapter is not represented and thus they are open to say whatever they please to a PNM with no kind of recourse aside from being dismissed from their post (which is not going to happen in the middle of formal recruitment!).

They're also not paying dues to Panhellenic, so technically they are not members of the campus Panhellenic, whereas chapters pay a fee each year to their campus Panhellenic, money that comes from the dues of active chapter members. There are bound to be Risk Management issues if a non-affiliated member affiliates with Panhellenic and pays dues. Rho Gammas today, Panhellenic President tomorrow? I am not trying to be unkind or unfair-- but if your sorority is not represented within a campus Panhellenic, you cannot act in the best interests of the Greek Community at-large without full immersion in that community as a member of an officially recognized chapter. There are also other issues, such as ABC picking up that they have 5 representatives on a Panhellenic council where there is no ABC chapter. How can non-affiliates vote and make decisions impacting the future of collegiate chapters when they are not paying dues or actively involved in a chapter on campus?

I do think it is regrettable that there isn't a home for transfer Greeks without a chapter. I believe that in most cases when you transfer and there is no chapter at your new school/you don't affiliate with the chapter at your new school, you are given alumna status, which would render one ineligible to participate in collegiate recruitment with regard to interaction with PNM's.

I think one solution is for these displaced Greeks to band together and form a campus organization-- you can get funding from SGA provided you have a min. number of committed members (I believe it's 12 at UCF). I'm sorry you felt you were brushed aside, and that UCF does not have an AGD chapter, but I think this is the benefit of alumnae association involvement-- you have the time and passion now as a student to turn your local AA into a very involved group within the community and your sisterhood.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by OTW

Summer breeze...makes me feel fiiiiiiine.

Oh ok.

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[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Oh ok.

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They play that song EVERYDAY on the station at work. Everytime it makes me think of Dazed & Confused.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by alphagamgirlie

If your school allows that, consider yourself lucky. At my school, a group of us AGDs & Phi Mus & Sigma Kappas 2 years ago tried to be Rho Gammas, and the school's Greek advisor had said that Panhellenic recruitment rules doesn't allow girls from nonexistent sororities (neither of us 3 organizations have ever been at our new school) to be Rho Gammas.

I only made this suggestion because I remember reading in another thread (which I convieniently can't find) that a Tri Delta transferred to Elon (this was before they colonized Tri Delta at Elon) and the Panhellenic Association let her be a Rho Chi. Maybe rules have changed since then, maybe they are only campus rules, or maybe Elon violated a rule.

I'd like to know the reasoning behind not allowing women who have transferred to a campus without their sorority to be Rho Gammas (or perhaps PHA officers), because it seems to me that it would be a good way to stay involved in the Greek community and these women would be much more likely to be unbiased.

Originally Posted by JessSigKap

I'd like to know the reasoning behind not allowing women who have transferred to a campus without their sorority to be Rho Gammas (or perhaps PHA officers), because it seems to me that it would be a good way to stay involved in the Greek community and these women would be much more likely to be unbiased.

At the same time, how would you know that these women would even be qualified to be Rho Gammas? How many recruitments have they participated in? Have they served as an officer to their chapter or to PHC?

While it would be a great way for them to stay involved, if they already have a group of women from represented sororities -- who are familiar with the campus Greek environment -- who want to be Rho Gammas, I think the opportunity should be given to them first and that they be given first consideration.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by OTW

At the same time, how would you know that these women would even be qualified to be Rho Gammas? How many recruitments have they participated in? Have they served as an officer to their chapter or to PHC?

While it would be a great way for them to stay involved, if they already have a group of women from represented sororities -- who are familiar with the campus Greek environment -- who want to be Rho Gammas, I think the opportunity should be given to them first and that they be given first consideration.

Of course not every transfer would be a good Rho Gamma, but they should be allowed to apply and interview! I would say that a second semester freshman who transferred from Auburn to UMass and has never been through formal recruitment as a member probably would not be a good candidate. However, a sophomore or junior who has been through recruitment as a member and is transferring to a campus with a similar culture, say UGA to Bama, might be a good candidate.

Originally Posted by JessSigKap

Of course not every transfer would be a good Rho Gamma, but they should be allowed to apply and interview! I would say that a second semester freshman who transferred from Auburn to UMass and has never been through formal recruitment as a member probably would not be a good candidate. However, a sophomore or junior who has been through recruitment as a member and is transferring to a campus with a similar culture, say UGA to Bama, might be a good candidate.

adpiucf made a great post on why transfer Rho Gammas might not be a good idea.

That said, if they already have a group of girls familiar with campus recruitment who want to be Rho Gammas, why bother with those who don't know anything about the campus?

If the transfer Greek wants sisterhood and bonding, that's what her AA is for.