Your thoughts on AI: discussion goes here.

[BaylorBean]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Considering PNAI's don't reveal the sorority they are considering AI with, you don't know if it's your sorority or not, so I still maintain that it isn't anyone's concern, because ultimately, it's up to the local AA anyway.

But its not up just to the local AA, its up to (I)NHQ as well.

[OtterXO]

Originally Posted by BaylorBean

But its not up just to the local AA, its up to (I)NHQ as well.

I was just about to type that.

Originally Posted by BaylorBean

But its not up just to the local AA, its up to (I)NHQ as well.

Thank you.

In many of the AI threads, the PNAM stated that the AA had to wait for approval from the HQ. So even if the AA wants to initiate, they can't do so until they get the okay from HQ. I've seen instances where the HQ's sent back a big fat "NO." as well.

So no, it's not ultimately left up to the AA.

All of a sudden this forum's starting to reek of something sweet.

[greekalum]

Depending on the organization it may or may not be up to the local AA.

Which is, again, a problem with these blind postings. What is the point of these "pursuit" threads? Encouragement? What if the organization the woman is pursuing does not do AI or the woman doesn't meet their criteria- does she really need pages of un-related women posting, "Oh, I hope (Code Name) calls you back"? What purpose does it serve?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by greekalum

Depending on the organization it may or may not be up to the local AA.

Which is, again, a problem with these blind postings. What is the point of these "pursuit" threads? Encouragement? What if the organization the woman is pursuing does not do AI or the woman doesn't meet their criteria- does she really need pages of un-related women posting, "Oh, I hope (Code Name) calls you back"? What purpose does it serve?

I think that the problem is in looking for a "point" Sometimes the only point is encouragement.

[greekalum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I think that the problem is in looking for a "point" Sometimes the only point is encouragement.

Yes, but I think encouraging someone in a futile quest- what if they have spent their whole "pursuit" thread trying to become an AI of an organization that doesn't do it?- is crueler than asking relevant questions.

[tunatartare]

You're not in a sorority so you're having a hard time comprehending this. From what I understand, the AI decision is up to the local AA, the HQ, and maybe even some other people. If you met a girl at a bar who was dancing on top of the bar and stripping and the next night you saw her at rush, wouldn't you be cautious? That's the same thing for many of the women on GC. They are loyal and devoted members of their sororities and want to protect their integrity, reputation, and good names. If they see a PNAM on GC revealing their true colors on GC and acting in not so positive way, why shouldn't they try to influence HQ's decision when it comes to that person's AI?

[ReachTheLimit]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

You're not in a sorority so you're having a hard time comprehending this. From what I understand, the AI decision is up to the local AA, the HQ, and maybe even some other people. If you met a girl at a bar who was dancing on top of the bar and stripping and the next night you saw her at rush, wouldn't you be cautious? That's the same thing for many of the women on GC. They are loyal and devoted members of their sororities and want to protect their integrity, reputation, and good names. If they see a PNAM on GC revealing their true colors on GC and acting in not so positive way, why shouldn't they try to influence HQ's decision when it comes to that person's AI?

KLP, when one starts with the "you are not in a sorority so you are not comprehending this" that is about as weak as "you don't have kids so you don't know anything about raising them" or "you are not married so you don't understand".

I don't understand why everything regarding AI has to be such an argument.

[tunatartare]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

KLP, when one starts with the "you are not in a sorority so you are not comprehending this" that is about as weak as "you don't have kids so you don't know anything about raising them" or "you are not married so you don't understand".

I don't understand why everything regarding AI has to be such an argument.

Why is that a weak argument? I don't have kids. So now, I truly don't 100% understand the responsibility or the role of being a parent. I can't and I won't unless I ever become a parent.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

I think potential AI members are tired of getting attacked for their interests and getting grilled by other GC members, who may NOT EVEN be a member of the sorority they are looking at, about why they want to join, etc. That isn't anyone's business, it's between the PNAI and the AA, and no PNAI should have to justify it to anyone on GC.

It seems like you're trying to have it both ways -- you're saying that why a woman wants to join a sorority isn't anyone's business and is between her and the organization. That's fine and I agree. The thing is, after she posts about it on the internet, she's making it everyone else's business. She could keep it between herself and the organization by not posting about it on the internet.

[OtterXO]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

It seems like you're trying to have it both ways -- you're saying that why a woman wants to join a sorority isn't anyone's business and is between her and the organization. That's fine and I agree. The thing is, after she posts about it on the internet, she's making it everyone else's business. She could keep it between herself and the organization by not posting about it on the internet.

SO true.

[ReachTheLimit]

Well, I'll give you that, I probably didn't word that correctly.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is when someone is generally posting, looking for general information, and just want to post regarding her successes and lows regarding AI, why should she have to worry about being grilled regarding her quest on the GC AI Forum and that people that don't particularly like the AI process being discussed lead the way? It just seems cruel and unnecessary.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

Considering PNAI's don't reveal the sorority they are considering AI with, you don't know if it's your sorority or not, so I still maintain that it isn't anyone's concern, because ultimately, it's up to the local AA anyway.

You're posting on a public message board. People can ask you questions. The only obligation to answer them is an internal social response. You don't have to answer a challenge, but if you don't want comments, don't post it.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

If the AI forum is disbanded, I for one, wouldn't be posting here any longer and I would'nt recommend it to anyone else who is looking to AI either.

Posterity.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

The reason is, there is too much back-stabbing, vindictive behavior on GC. I have been reading through alot of threads, it's better than a book. I saw one thread (on the collegiate side) where a girl's boyfriend had dumped her, and his NEW girlfriend was getting ready to rush in the Spring at another college...she was posting to see if she should call the sorority there because "she couldn't deal with potentially having her as a sister". That's just nothing but high-school BULLSH*T, and I have read the same thing on the AI side. If a member gets into a fight on GC with PNAI, the first thing they say is, "We'll make sure you don't get in."

Obviously you didn't read that thread in its entirely or just forgot about what it actually said. The girl in question has a big time drug and alcohol problem. You also obviously didn't read the follow up, dear, as many people followed up encouraging her to base any potential action she may take on facts, not her personal drama.