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AlphaFrog · #1 10-05-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

So then you're saying that it happens but is extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely rare? .00001 %? So then, what's the problem?

That's the problem.

blueangel · #2 10-05-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

That's the problem.

It's a problem that it's rare that someone is sponsored on Greek Chat? You'd like to make it common?

Who was sponsored and who did the sponsoring? Again, please feel free to PM me the names. I have never heard of it. Or are you assuming?

33girl · #3 10-05-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

It's a problem that it's rare that someone is sponsored on Greek Chat? You'd like to make it common?

Who was sponsored and who did the sponsoring? Again, please feel free to PM me the names. I have never heard of it. Or are you assuming?

Do a search.

AChiOhSnap · #4 10-05-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

It's a problem that it's rare that someone is sponsored on Greek Chat? You'd like to make it common?

Who was sponsored and who did the sponsoring? Again, please feel free to PM me the names. I have never heard of it. Or are you assuming?

No blueangel, it really happened. This woman initially went to a few different sororities for AI attempts, none of them worked out, and then was OFFERED a sponsorship -- really out of the blue -- by a member of GC in a fourth org. When she posted her story and mentioned that she was offered sponsorship on GC, it seemed to invoke a virtual slew of "SPONSOR ME!!!!" requests. I'm not going to comment on this particular woman's story since she's been initiated now and that's all that matters, but unfortunately, it seemed to put the idea in the random PNAIs' heads that you could just get anyone from the internet to sponsor you or walk you through the AI process for their sorority.

ETA: the problem is not with this particular woman, or that this only happened once, the problem is it's really obnoxious when PNAIs basically spam the board with "sponsor me" requests. Most have been deleted now, but these same PNAIs are the ones that start bitching and cussing everyone out on the board when the GCers are like "This is not the appropriate way to obtain sponsorship." It's obnoxious that this bs clogs up what should ordinarily be an interesting forum. Since I feel like there's a small handful of really great PNAIs that are going about the AI process in the right way and a whole hell of a lot of freakshow PNAIs that got cut from every sorority in college because they have no social graces, I think it's appropriate to either close the board and let the good PNAIs post in their respective sororities' forums, or start immediately closing down AI shopping threads like the D9 forums do.

blueangel · #5 10-05-2006, 11:15 AM

One person.. that's what all this "big deal" is about? I'd still like to know who this was and who sponsored her.

What's the problem if a bunch of people ask.. just say no. And.. I haven't seen a "slew" of sponsorship requests. Where are they?

All that is needed is a "stickie" that says "Do not request sponsorship from GC members." Simple painless solution to a problem I just, frankly, don't see.

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Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap

No blueangel, it really happened. This woman initially went to a few different sororities for AI attempts, none of them worked out, and then was OFFERED a sponsorship -- really out of the blue -- by a member of GC in a fourth org. When she posted her story and mentioned that she was offered sponsorship on GC, it seemed to invoke a virtual slew of "SPONSOR ME!!!!" requests. I'm not going to comment on this particular woman's story since she's been initiated now and that's all that matters, but unfortunately, it seemed to put the idea in the random PNAIs' heads that you could just get anyone from the internet to sponsor you or walk you through the AI process for their sorority.

ETA: the problem is not with this particular woman, or that this only happened once, the problem is it's really obnoxious when PNAIs basically spam the board with "sponsor me" requests. Most have been deleted now, but these same PNAIs are the ones that start bitching and cussing everyone out on the board when the GCers are like "This is not the appropriate forum to contact your group." It's obnoxious that this bs clogs up what should ordinarily be an interesting forum.

AlphaFrog · #6 10-05-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

All that is needed is a "stickie" that says "Do not request sponsorship from GC members." Simple painless solution to a problem I just, frankly, don't see.

If new people actually read the stickies, it might be ok (still not ideal, but ok), but they don't. Why do you think we're always getting dumb newbie questions, even though there's a stickied thread telling new people what questions are dumb...???

AChiOhSnap · #7 10-05-2006, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

And.. I haven't seen a "slew" of sponsorship requests. Where are they?

In my PM box, for one.

Or they get deleted after they turn into trainwrecks.

SydneyK · #8 10-05-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

One person.. that's what all this "big deal" is about? I'd still like to know who this was and who sponsored her.

What difference does it make who either party involved was? Just accept the fact that it has happened, and that that is part of what the underlying problem is.

You sure are wanting a lot of information for someone who gets so defensive when someone on GC is "identified". If either party wants to "out" herself, let them do it on their own. Don't come here asking people to tell you who it was (whether by posting or PMing).

blueangel · #9 10-05-2006, 11:29 AM

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What difference does it make who either party involved was? Just accept the fact that it has happened, and that that is part of what the underlying problem is.

You sure are wanting a lot of information for someone who gets so defensive when someone on GC is "identified". If either party wants to "out" herself, let them do it on their own. Don't come here asking people to tell you who it was (whether by posting or PMing).

I am a journalist, and I like to have the facts verified before I accept something as fact. I have never seen this happen, and nobody has provided a link or a name. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I never saw it happen. I'd like to see the post. I haven't been able to find it in a search.

If it was a public post, it is not "outing". "Outing" is when someone posts personal photos from another site of someone without their permission, or personal information such as their hometown, age, etc. without their permission.

This issue seems to be much ado about nothing.

valkyrie · #10 10-05-2006, 11:39 AM

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I am a journalist, and I like to have the facts verified before I accept something as fact.

Your profession is irrelevant. You can like whatever you want, but that doesn't mean you're entitled to the information.

adpiucf · #11 10-05-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

This issue seems to be much ado about nothing.

Just because you don't think it is important doesn't make it a trivial concern. And with all due respect, you have not been a member of your sorority long enough to fully understand the considerations of group mentality when it comes to sorority policy or why this is important to those of us who have been members of our organizations for several years.

I am in no way saying you aren't a good member or a contributing future leader and asset to your organization.

For the record, I wish to state that to the best of my knowledge, the above post is in no way profane, obscene or otherwise in violation of the TOS.

valkyrie · #12 10-05-2006, 11:26 AM

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One person.. that's what all this "big deal" is about? I'd still like to know who this was and who sponsored her.

This has happened at least twice. Why are you entitled to know who?

I think it's kind of lame that I asked that alphagamoochagoo or whatever her name is several questions and then she decided to demand that any questions to her be taken to PM. I guess she can't answer them.

PinkandGreenJ · #13 10-05-2006, 11:31 AM

It happens a lot. A friend of mine is a recent AI who was on this board. She had all her stuff deleted because she was getting PM sponsorship requests. Stupid and disgusting.

She was pissed because she did AI quietly, only posted when she got invited and then got this.

A lot of AIs are pissed off by this forum...at least that is what she told me.

PinkandGreenJ · #14 10-05-2006, 11:33 AM

Forgot to mention....there are also people on here who contact PNAI and ask if they want introductions...not sure how I feel about that either.

AChiOhSnap · #15 10-05-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkandGreenJ

It happens a lot. A friend of mine is a recent AI who was on this board. She had all her stuff deleted because she was getting PM sponsorship requests. Stupid and disgusting.

She was pissed because she did AI quietly, only posted when she got invited and then got this.

A lot of AIs are pissed off by this forum...at least that is what she told me.

I get PM sponsorship/alumnae group introduction requests, and I'm an undergraduate. It freaks me out, really. I had one PNAI offer to be my chapter advisor (!!!) if I helped her get initiated.

ETA: blueangel, I searched for it for you: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=57188