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Old 10-03-2006, 03:56 PM
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Staunch conservative is far from blindy partisan...most staunch conservatives I know are disenchanted with the republican party.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:50 PM
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Because its not that conservative. However, there is a big difference between being unimpressed with the current state of GOP politics, and voting or leaning democratic. I'll take a less conservative GOP over the weak stance of the DNC anyday.
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:57 PM
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Because its not that conservative. However, there is a big difference between being unimpressed with the current state of GOP politics, and voting or leaning democratic. I'll take a less conservative GOP over the weak stance of the DNC anyday.

They want stricter morality and anti-government intervention and control? To be disenchanted should mean to forego party loyalty and instead vote based on political platforms.

Either way, both the Democrats and Republicans are the devil. Go Independent.
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:49 PM
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Hey Shinerbock

My point in the post was that people who are imprisoned in political dogma, particularly of the self-righteous variety invariably fall because like Wolf said, we all fall prey to human frailty and taking the moral high ground has slippery slopes. Using such moral platitudes to pander to a base that you only plan to prostitute leaves you little wiggle room when your personal peccadillos come to light

Newt Gingrich was in an extra-marital affair and divorced his wife after she was diagnosed with cancer. Some family values. He left unwillingly.

Rush Limbaugh= drug addict, felon, and sexual predator (sex trips to the Dominican Republic to have sex with teenage girls).

Jim Wright lead formal impeachment hearings against Clinton. Had to resign when his adulterous affair came to light.

Tom Delay Rep Majority Leader leaves in disgrace due to multiple corruption charges.

As for most Democrats, they don't cloak themselves in Moral Dogma as part of their political strategy since as Anne Coulter-geist states, they are "godless". If Dems are Godless then what is the Republican leadership.

Those named republicans have been disengenuous in pandering to the true moral conservatives who make up the hard right wing of the party and leaving them used like a crack whore. Just like the Dems do to Black voters.

As my Pastor says, "don't play with God"


Lastly, as a man of conviction, I admire yours to a point, but sometimes you have to realize, that you cannot be right all of the time just because your talking points say that you are. When faced with incontroverable facts a reasonable and intelligent person would concede or even dialogue on some points. However, only a demagogue cannot see fault or error in himself and his views, nor the good and validity in his opponent. There is no growth nor enlightenment. Fanatics, fundamentalists, the intellectually lazy, and fools let slogans and dogma speak for them rather than rational thought.

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Old 10-04-2006, 12:37 AM
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Of course, my only contention is that equal amounts of corruption, moral indiscretion, etc...exists on the other side of the aisle. So long as you realize this, thats fine.
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Old 10-04-2006, 07:24 AM
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So, because a few Republicans have gotten off the beatonpath, ALL Republicans are bad? That doesnt make much logical sence to me. Democrats have been taken care of by interns. They have had affairs ontheir wives. DOes that make all of them bad?

You cant stereotype a whle group of people because of a few. Thats what white people have been doing to us for years. Take the better road and dont be like that.
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:38 AM
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So, because a few Republicans have gotten off the beatonpath, ALL Republicans are bad?
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Of course, my only contention is that equal amounts of corruption, moral indiscretion, etc...exists on the other side of the aisle. So long as you realize this, thats fine.

We're waiting for the staunch, conservative Republicans to realize this so they can stop beating America over the head with their "morality."
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