Agree with this.

KunjaPrincess · #1 09-29-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising

Can someone tell me which category I belong in, because I'm very confused...

I am an AI.
I think AI is a great way to have outstanding women join my organization, if my organization feels they deserve the honour.
I think if you know someone that would make a great member of your sorority, it's a great opportunity to involve them.
I think it's useful for people who's locals were absorbed by an NPC.
I don't think AI is a good thing to pursue on the internet.
I don't favour AI for people who are using it to fulfill a dream rather than contribute to an organization.
I don't think AI is a good fit for everyone.
I don't think AI advice should be freely given around GC.

Does that make me Pro or Anti AI??????

NOt sure if you are Pro or Anti AI but when you figure it out can you let me know so I can make my stance too

Jill1228 · #2 09-29-2006, 01:10 PM

ditto to what aries and KP said

This thread is getting interesting...anyone want popcorn? (passes bucket around)

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Originally Posted by KunjaPrincess

NOt sure if you are Pro or Anti AI but when you figure it out can you let me know so I can make my stance too

KunjaPrincess · #3 09-29-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill1228

ditto to what aries and KP said

This thread is getting interesting...anyone want popcorn? (passes bucket around)

Carmel or buttered???

James · #4 09-29-2006, 02:59 PM

If most people are unhappy with Penguin and Carnation as mods then maybe we should just give the forum back to Tom.

The recruitment mods were nice enough to offer to moderate the forum after the previous debate, and everyone seemed happy with the change, now many of the same people deliberately seem to be antagonizing them.

Going down the same Path they took with Tom before. I'm starting to think that maybe Tom wasn't the problem, they were.

So why don't we spare the mods the agravation and give the forum back to Tom, someone nothing seems to bother, or maybe . . . tone the complaints down.

So the present moderators, or back to Tom. You choose by your conduct.

valkyrie · #5 09-29-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by James

So the present moderators, or back to Tom. You choose by your conduct.

This is a logical fallacy -- a false dilemma.

James · #6 09-29-2006, 03:12 PM

If people keep pushing they are not going to want to moderate it anymore, and its already been decided not to delete the forum.

Why not hand it back to Tom? . . Why would any other moderator want to do it?

John has no obligation to try and pick moderator to please members. Although, this latest change could be looked at as a nice attempt to do exactly that . . which seems to be failing.

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

This is a logical fallacy -- a false dilemma.

greekalum · #7 09-29-2006, 03:15 PM

Why should it exist, James? It is solely a place for people with reasons that NPC members have explicitly said are NOT reasons to AI to pursue a pipe dream. Should we also have a forum where we can all post about our pursuit of the ability to fly? A forum for men who want to join sororities and women who want to join men's fraternities? A forum for people who think their pet poodle would make a killer sorority woman?

adpiucf · #8 09-29-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by James

John has no obligation to try and pick moderator to please members.

Why not? Didn't he put this site up to please members? I don't see huge advertisements generating clicks and profits.

This isn't an impossible request. Delete the forum and anyone with AI questions can find an AI.

adpiucf · #9 09-29-2006, 03:13 PM

It's not Recruitment Forum Mods or Tom. We're saying that an AI Forum has no place here. AI is not recruitment. AI is something sororities invite individuals to in very special instances-- and it is overwhelmingly not something that we want to promote or publicize at this point in time. There should be no AI Forum or sub forum. AI can be discussed to the point of "I'm a new sister of XYZ and I joined through AI!" or a stickied thread at the top of the Alum Involvement Forum/Recruitment Forum stating that while GC recognizes the value AI members bring to their chapters, GC -RESPECTS- the wishes of NPC AI policies to practice discretion in not publicizing AI to non-members. Anyone interested in AI should talk to a friend or family member with a link to an NPC sorority."

Why is that so hard to comprehend? We don't want to discuss AI in the level of detail to which is has been discussed on GC?

AI is not recruitment. It is not part of chapter operations, risk management, social, fundraising, et. al. It is part of Greek Life, but an extremely modest number of women. The vast majority of members don't even know AI exists. Many don't like the idea of it. Others do. Those who support the program aren't actively recruiting in droves.

We don't need to promote AI on GC at all. No need for a moderator. No need for a forum. It just should not be the big issue it has become. This isn't about Tom. This isn't about Barb. This is about the AI process and exercising discretion. Why can't we do away with an AI specific forum and refer anyone interested to talk to a member of a sorority who AI'd?

_Lisa_ · #10 09-29-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by James

So the present moderators, or back to Tom. You choose by your conduct.

The forum should be deleted completely.

midwesterngirl · #11 09-29-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by _Lisa_

The forum should be deleted completely.

Amen! If I am pro anything it is pro deletion of the entire forum. It serves no useful purpose anymore.

greekalum · #12 09-29-2006, 03:05 PM

I don't think anyone is suggesting handing it back to Tom. (Why on earth would that make sense?)

I don't know that the criticism is as much with the current mods, either. The point is- in the actual world of how AI works, any PNAI who is running around shouting about how they might want to be an XYZ or maybe an ABC or perhaps a DEF, which one will get back to her? Which one will take her? It's her DREAM and she just didn't get to do it in college and it is so unfaiiiir that people keep trying to steer her away would get shut down and promptly.

If AI commentary was restricted to the respective organizations' subforums, that type of conversation would have no place. As long as there is an open free for all area, as if AI is, like recruitment, similar across the board, that type of conversation will flourish. And I don't think ANYONE wants to encourage it. (The "AI is my great chance!" conversations, not actual AI, which I think many of us DO support.)

#13 09-29-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by James

So the present moderators, or back to Tom. You choose by your conduct.

Neither.

Follow the D9 Forums' lead and nip all membership-related questions (including AI) in the bud or get rid of this forum completely.

Those are better suggestions.

James · #14 09-29-2006, 03:15 PM

Actually I was in favor of getting rid of the forum completely also . . so i agree with you. I don't think you can have the forum exist though and expect to be able to just terminate every thread. It would look kind of funny.

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Originally Posted by OTW

Neither.

Follow the D9 Forums' lead and nip all membership-related questions (including AI) in the bud or get rid of this forum completely.

Those are better suggestions.

Buttonz · #15 09-29-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by greekalum

Keeping them all in one place just encourages the shoppers.

Agreed!

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Originally Posted by James

If most people are unhappy with Penguin and Carnation as mods then maybe we should just give the forum back to Tom.

This would help how? It has nothing to do with who the mods are, it has to do with the point of the fourm in the first place.