Agree with this.

valkyrie · #1 09-28-2006, 10:51 PM

I misunderstood the point of your threads -- I thought you were saying that your quote in my signature is the new rule in this forum. Is that not the case?

ETA: Does your question whether we're "for" or "against" AI refer to whether we're in favor of or opposed to AI in general or only in terms of this forum?

PenguinTrax · #2 09-28-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

I misunderstood the point of your threads -- I thought you were saying that your quote in my signature is the new rule in this forum. Is that not the case?

That rule applies only to the 2 threads in question(pro AI and con AI).

Tippiechick · #3 09-28-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

I misunderstood the point of your threads -- I thought you were saying that your quote in my signature is the new rule in this forum. Is that not the case?

I don't understand the goal of the pro and con threads. What good does it do to have people proclaim themselves to be pro or con ai? And, why do we have to separate the two into separate threads that cannot co-exist? This is the exact point of my threads. Debate is frowned upon. Why aren't people allowed to debate the issue? Why do we have to segregate them?

valkyrie · #4 09-28-2006, 10:57 PM

The problem is that whether you're in favor of AI as a concept has nothing to do with Greekchat. I think AI is great in appropriate circumstances, but I think it's awful when freaks find out about it on GC and people encourage them. So I can't say whether I'm "pro" or "con" AI, because it depends on the situation.

I am opposed to having this forum on GC.

sigmadiva · #5 09-29-2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

The problem is that whether you're in favor of AI as a concept has nothing to do with Greekchat. I think AI is great in appropriate circumstances, but I think it's awful when freaks find out about it on GC and people encourage them. So I can't say whether I'm "pro" or "con" AI, because it depends on the situation.

I am opposed to having this forum on GC.

As an NPC "outsider" I agree also.

I don't think the process of pursuing AI should be discussed on GC any more than the process of pursuing membership at the collegiate level. Each org will have her own private rules for joining and they should not be discussed in public. When a 'freak' comes on here pushing her interests to AI into 'any org that will take her', then that is when the discussion gets hot.

I can understand why this is such a sensitive issue - no one wants their org perceived as the 'easy to AI into org'. I think this has been the crux of the whole NPC AI issue here on GC.

When you talk about membership, whether it is for collegiate membership or AI, it can become very sticky for a number of reasons. That is why it should not be discussed, or even hinted at on a public forum.

As I have been on GC over the years, I've come to appreciate the fact that the D9 mods will immediately close / delete threads concerning membership into a D9 org. You can scroll through the AKA and Delta forums on a daily basis and some weirdo has posted some question like 'I love you guys and obsess on becoming a member - what do I need to do to join your org'. Then the mods of each forum will direct the poster to the org's national website for membership information. I think if you did that here for NPC - AI, it will cut out all of this confusion and mess.

PT, as I am reading it, I don't think the issue is 'pro' v. 'con' AI. I think the issue is that people are very protective of who is allowed membership into their org.

Sistermadly · #6 09-29-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

The problem is that whether you're in favor of AI as a concept has nothing to do with Greekchat. I think AI is great in appropriate circumstances, but I think it's awful when freaks find out about it on GC and people encourage them. So I can't say whether I'm "pro" or "con" AI, because it depends on the situation.

I am opposed to having this forum on GC.

Wordy McWord Word. WORD.

Scandia · #7 09-29-2006, 07:20 AM

I do not think "fulfilling a dream" and "contributing to an organization" are mutually exclusive in any way.

AlphaFrog · #8 09-29-2006, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

I do not think "fulfilling a dream" and "contributing to an organization" are mutually exclusive in any way.

No. But one is a reason that someone might be a good AI candidate (given that they meet OTHER criteria, like say...having a connection to that group), and the other is a ridiculous reason to pursue AI. I'll let everyone figure out which is which.

PenguinTrax · #9 09-29-2006, 07:39 AM

And the funny thing is, I started a thread so that you could discuss the issue and noone has posted in it. Because they aren't interested or because I posted that personal attacks wouldn't be allowed? Only the Shadow knows for sure....

AlphaFrog · #10 09-29-2006, 07:30 AM

I'm not sure which thread to post on either....

I'm completely against Sorority Shopping.
I'm for AI when the sorority member offers it to the PNAM, but not when the PNAM goes "seeking out" sorority members to bug about it.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned, that I have less of a problem with, are women who were involved in a local in college (that hasn't been absorbed by an NPC), and now want a national tie. I still don't think that they should go sorority shopping, but if they have encountered a woman in an NPC, or an Alumna Chapter that stands out to them, I think they would be a good fit for AI in certain situations. They're obviously not trying to live out their college days as an active...they got the chance to do that, and know what that part of sorority life is about. They'd make decent advisors, because they HAVE been through the experience.

PinkandGreenJ · #11 09-29-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising

Can someone tell me which category I belong in, because I'm very confused...

I am an AI.
I think AI is a great way to have outstanding women join my organization, if my organization feels they deserve the honour.
I think if you know someone that would make a great member of your sorority, it's a great opportunity to involve them.
I think it's useful for people who's locals were absorbed by an NPC.
I don't think AI is a good thing to pursue on the internet.
I don't favour AI for people who are using it to fulfill a dream rather than contribute to an organization.
I don't think AI is a good fit for everyone.
I don't think AI advice should be freely given around GC.

Does that make me Pro or Anti AI??????

Good question, aries! You are always a voice of reason....

KunjaPrincess · #12 09-29-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising

Can someone tell me which category I belong in, because I'm very confused...

I am an AI.
I think AI is a great way to have outstanding women join my organization, if my organization feels they deserve the honour.
I think if you know someone that would make a great member of your sorority, it's a great opportunity to involve them.
I think it's useful for people who's locals were absorbed by an NPC.
I don't think AI is a good thing to pursue on the internet.
I don't favour AI for people who are using it to fulfill a dream rather than contribute to an organization.
I don't think AI is a good fit for everyone.
I don't think AI advice should be freely given around GC.

Does that make me Pro or Anti AI??????

NOt sure if you are Pro or Anti AI but when you figure it out can you let me know so I can make my stance too

Jill1228 · #13 09-29-2006, 01:10 PM

ditto to what aries and KP said

This thread is getting interesting...anyone want popcorn? (passes bucket around)

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Originally Posted by KunjaPrincess

NOt sure if you are Pro or Anti AI but when you figure it out can you let me know so I can make my stance too

KunjaPrincess · #14 09-29-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill1228

ditto to what aries and KP said

This thread is getting interesting...anyone want popcorn? (passes bucket around)

Carmel or buttered???

SmartBlondeGPhB · #15 09-29-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising

Can someone tell me which category I belong in, because I'm very confused...

I am an AI.
I think AI is a great way to have outstanding women join my organization, if my organization feels they deserve the honour.
I think if you know someone that would make a great member of your sorority, it's a great opportunity to involve them.
I think it's useful for people who's locals were absorbed by an NPC.
I don't think AI is a good thing to pursue on the internet.
I don't favour AI for people who are using it to fulfill a dream rather than contribute to an organization.
I don't think AI is a good fit for everyone.
I don't think AI advice should be freely given around GC.

Does that make me Pro or Anti AI??????

With the exception of the first one (since I'm not an AI), I agree.