HIV testing - A standard part of your yearly physical

[Langox510x]

Originally Posted by OtterXO

I'm at the point where I'm confused about the point you're trying to make. Can you restate it? Are you saying that any and all persons who infect others with HIV should be charged with a crime for infecting person X and every other person that person X infects?

Tat was a little bit of a bad example, but read the second link for a better example. Please understand that I'm a college student and really don't have the time to dig up a source for a case that happened well over 5 years ago.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

AID's and HIV are like saying potato (USA) and potato (UK) to me. I know the difference, but I think it’s something a lot of people do.

What?!

[OtterXO]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

Tat was a little bit of a bad example, but read the second link for a better example. Please understand that I'm a college student and really don't have the time to dig up a source for a case that happened well over 5 years ago.

I still don't understand the point you're trying to make. I'm really trying to understand your point but I can't seem to figure it out.....and cites don't really change that.

[Langox510x]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

What?!

I was saying that I had used the to words lose and nterchangeably. Not to hard to grasp.

Originally Posted by OtterXO

I still don't understand the point you're trying to make. I'm really trying to understand your point but I can't seem to figure it out.....and cites don't really change that.

I wasn't trying to make a point, as you asked I was trying to site. I couldn't find the case that I needed so I sites a couple similer cases. Get it??

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

I was saying that I had used the to words lose and nterchangeably. Not to hard to grasp.

You didn't understand my question -- I was asking why you keep putting an apostrophe in AIDS. It's AIDS, not AID's.

[Langox510x]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

You didn't understand my question -- I was asking why you keep putting an apostrophe in AIDS. It's AIDS, not AID's.

Oh, whatever.

[OtterXO]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

As you asked I was trying to site. I couldn't find the case that I needed so I sites a couple similer cases. Get it??

No, that's not what I was asking. I read through this whole thread again and your argument seems to be that any and all persons who infect others with HIV should be charged with a crime for infecting person X and every other person that person X infects? Is this what you're saying? I want to know your point. Get my question now???

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

Oh, whatever.

I realize that you've said you're not the best speller and all, but sometimes your spelling/grammar make your posts very unclear. I'm the first to admit that consistent bad spelling/grammar (not just typos, everyone has typos) annoy me, but it's ridiculous when it gets to the point that your posts are not understandable.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

Oh, whatever.

How is anybody supposed to take seriously your posts on a subject that you can't spell correctly?

[GAC3710]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

No disrespect, but a lot of what you post seems like conspiracy theory. I remember during "Bigger & Blacker" Chris Rock jokingly made the same argument as you about how big companies will never come up with a cure because there was no money in it that. If that’s the case then why is every big pharmaceutical company spending in the billions to research and come up with the cure?? I can ashore you that at the least in the short run a vaccine for AID's would make a lot more money then just meds. Also look at the fact that if they do come up with a vaccine more then likely it would be short supplied anyway (such as penicillin). Even if that wasn't the case you sometimes have to realize that not everything is about money. If a company would do something such as that it would be looked down on as extremely unethical. The people who run these researches are people just like you and me, and best believe a lot of folks have all this money invested because they hope on saving themselves or a loved one. I can see people withholding a vaccine for some things, but one for AID's would be hard to withhold especially since it's something everybody seems to be looking for. Can you even imagine what the reproductions would be if someone was caught withholding a vaccine for HIV??? That would be the scandal of the century.

It was funny when Chris Rock made a joke stating they would never cure AID's, but that was a joke and nothing more

Conspiracy theory my ass. Do you honestly think that HIV/AIDS came from blacks having sex with monkeys and that despite all the technological advances we have made we still cannot cure Cancer, HIV, Herpes, Alzheimers or any other these so called "incurable" ailments. Do you not find it odd that despite a recent vaccine for HPV we still cannot get rid of herpes? Have you ever noticed that people in the military never get HIV/AIDS or the common cold? They do have this thing called the inoculation (sp?) shot that you must sign for and they will not tell you what it does nor what is in it. It is not a conspiracy it is a reality. The world is a vampire and ruled by the dollar. Big businesses do not think in the short term sense as you mentioned. They are big because they have been there for a long time, so they think long term because they are not going anywhere. The military industrial complex aside, the pharmaceutical sector makes more money than any other part of just about every major industrialized nation's economy. When you understand that maybe then you will see how "Big Pharma" is in big with the Government and realize the truth.

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by GAC3710

Conspiracy theory my ass. Do you honestly think that HIV/AIDS came from blacks having sex with monkeys and that despite all the technological advances we have made we still cannot cure Cancer, HIV, Herpes, Alzheimers or any other these so called "incurable" ailments. Do you not find it odd that despite a recent vaccine for HPV we still cannot get rid of herpes? Have you ever noticed that people in the military never get HIV/AIDS or the common cold? They do have this thing called the inoculation (sp?) shot that you must sign for and they will not tell you what it does nor what is in it. It is not a conspiracy it is a reality. The world is a vampire and ruled by the dollar. Big businesses do not think in the short term sense as you mentioned. They are big because they have been there for a long time, so they think long term because they are not going anywhere. The military industrial complex aside, the pharmaceutical sector makes more money than any other part of just about every major industrialized nation's economy. When you understand that maybe then you will see how "Big Pharma" is in big with the Government and realize the truth.

I'm really not sure what to think -- but I wouldn't be shocked if at least some of this is true.

[OtterXO]

Originally Posted by GAC3710

Conspiracy theory my ass. Do you honestly think that HIV/AIDS came from blacks having sex with monkeys and that despite all the technological advances we have made we still cannot cure Cancer, HIV, Herpes, Alzheimers or any other these so called "incurable" ailments. Do you not find it odd that despite a recent vaccine for HPV we still cannot get rid of herpes? Have you ever noticed that people in the military never get HIV/AIDS or the common cold? They do have this thing called the inoculation (sp?) shot that you must sign for and they will not tell you what it does nor what is in it. It is not a conspiracy it is a reality. The world is a vampire and ruled by the dollar. Big businesses do not think in the short term sense as you mentioned. They are big because they have been there for a long time, so they think long term because they are not going anywhere. The military industrial complex aside, the pharmaceutical sector makes more money than any other part of just about every major industrialized nation's economy. When you understand that maybe then you will see how "Big Pharma" is in big with the Government and realize the truth.

fyi, there's a vaccine for herpes that is still in Stage III of clinical trials. Other than that I don't know if what you are saying it true, but nothing surprises me these days.

[Langox510x]

Originally Posted by OtterXO

No, that's not what I was asking. I read through this whole thread again and your argument seems to be that any and all persons who infect others with HIV should be charged with a crime for infecting person X and every other person that person X infects? Is this what you're saying? I want to know your point. Get my question now???

Hell no that’s not what I said, and not only that my argument was far more clear then that.

Basically to sum it up, if you are out there carrying HIV and it can be proven that you purposely slept with others with the intent of infecting others then that’s what I would consider murder.

Now I think it would also be a good idea to test anybody sexually active from time to time for HIV because it is something that if not tested will spread to others exponentially infecting 100's. I can infect 2 girls who will then have sex with 2 guys each who then go and infect 2 each themselves. Just from that the virus I carried has just infected that’s me infecting 14 plus people in what could be the short span of a couple of weeks.

[OtterXO]

Originally Posted by Langox510x

Hell no that’s not what I said, and not only that my argument was far more clear then that.

Basically to sum it up, if you are out there carrying HIV and it can be proven that you purposely slept with others with the intent of infecting others then that’s what I would consider murder.

Now I think it would also be a good idea to test anybody sexually active from time to time for HIV because it is something that if not tested will spread to others exponentially infecting 100's. I can infect 2 girls who will then have sex with 2 guys each who then go and infect 2 each themselves. Just from that the virus I carried has just infected that’s me infecting 14 plus people in what could be the short span of a couple of weeks.

Actually it wasn't more clear than that, but I understand it now. As for periodic testing....I think that's what the CDC is getting at with that recommendation. And I agree with it as long as people are given a reasonable method for declining the test.

[Langox510x]

Originally Posted by GAC3710

Conspiracy theory my ass. Do you honestly think that HIV/AIDS came from blacks having sex with monkeys and that despite all the technological advances we have made we still cannot cure Cancer, HIV, Herpes, Alzheimers or any other these so called "incurable" ailments. Do you not find it odd that despite a recent vaccine for HPV we still cannot get rid of herpes? Have you ever noticed that people in the military never get HIV/AIDS or the common cold? They do have this thing called the inoculation (sp?) shot that you must sign for and they will not tell you what it does nor what is in it. It is not a conspiracy it is a reality. The world is a vampire and ruled by the dollar. Big businesses do not think in the short term sense as you mentioned. They are big because they have been there for a long time, so they think long term because they are not going anywhere. The military industrial complex aside, the pharmaceutical sector makes more money than any other part of just about every major industrialized nation's economy. When you understand that maybe then you will see how "Big Pharma" is in big with the Government and realize the truth.

If it's not a big conspiracy theory then why isn't the media getting on this one?? Why haven't I even heard this stated as a theory in my Natural Resources class??

What you have to realize is that man didn't create the world; man doesn't have all the answers. Diseases have plagued life since the beginning of time, and no matter how far man advances there will always be a killer disease out there. Be it the Cold, small pox, the black plague, AIDS. Hopefully one day in my time we will have found the cure for AIDS, but even today you don't even see the rare case where somebody has been cured for AIDS and they cant replicate that finding, therefore I can only look at your theory as a conspiracy theory.