Penn State IFC & Panhellenic Ban "Open" Parties

[EE-BO]

Old news, but critically important.

Many if not most of the bad incidents I have personally known about at Greek parties (i.e. "in the newspaper" kind of stuff) involved at least one stranger who just showed up.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

Old news, but critically important.

Many if not most of the bad incidents I have personally known about at Greek parties (i.e. "in the newspaper" kind of stuff) involved at least one stranger who just showed up.

I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.

[EE-BO]

Originally Posted by madmax

I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.

When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.

Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.

It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.

I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.

Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.

It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.

I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.

Not only that, at Penn State there are a ridiculous amount of outsiders (high schoolers, townies, people from other colleges) coming to party just because it's a big school in the middle of BFP.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by EE-BO

When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.

Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.

It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.

I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.

It is like your said, your experience is hardly a reliable national statistic.

I bet Deltalumni has a pie chart on his bedroom ceiling with the exact breakdowns. He could probably settle it.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by madmax

I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.

Getting rather late here, so I am not going to do a full blown search.
But a down and dirty one found this:
http://www.securityoncampus.org/aboutsoc/baer.html

I have rather good feelings that there are more....

[madmax]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Getting rather late here, so I am not going to do a full blown search.
But a down and dirty one found this:
http://www.securityoncampus.org/aboutsoc/baer.html

I have rather good feelings that there are more....

It is one example out of thousands. Is that your idea of a majority?

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by madmax

It is one example out of thousands. Is that your idea of a majority?

Madmax,
Please check my posting for I said nothing of that kind......but if I am going to spend time finding sites like that, perhaps you should spend some time finding the others.........

[UNDPike86]

I have no idea how anyone could make a statement against the fact that outside visitors of greek houses cause the most problems. At my frat the only problems we have ever had were all outsiders. However we boot anybody out on the first sign of trouble.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by UNDPike86

I have no idea how anyone could make a statement against the fact that outside visitors of greek houses cause the most problems. At my frat the only problems we have ever had were all outsiders. However we boot anybody out on the first sign of trouble.

It is real easy. Just open your eyes and read the posts on this board. Why was the UF Pike chapter just suspended? Did the outsiders throw the party at the Pike house?