BGLO and GLO

[Langox510x]

Originally Posted by KAY10

Good points Frat. Good points!

I second that!!

Originally Posted by KAY10

Hey, can somone clarify this for me. I've noticed that when WGLOs post pictures of their orgs. on the internet, why do some of them cover the faces of some of the members, as if their not members anymore. Can someone explain this to me?

For the duration of formal recruitment, NPC sororities have women who disaffiliate from their organizations to serve as recruitment counselors to Prospective New Members. They assist PNMs by answering questions and leading recruitment groups.

They cannot reveal their sorority, so they remain neutral and don't influence their PNMs, and that is why their faces are covered on chapter websites. Their affiliations are revealed once recruitment is over, on Bid Day.

[elusive47]

Originally Posted by KAY10

Hey, can somone clarify this for me. I've noticed that when WGLOs post pictures of their orgs. on the internet, why do some of them cover the faces of some of the members, as if their not members anymore. Can someone explain this to me?

I'm not too sure about this, but I think the reason why, is that the women who have their faces covered up in pictures on the internet are Rush Counselors for their school's Formal Rush. From what I know, as long as they are guiding potential sorority pledges through Formal (Social [meaning not cultural] sororities hold one large scale Rush on their particular campus every year instead of several organization-specific rushes every year.) Rush, they cannot affiliate with their respective orgs. Meaning that they can't wear letters, or state that they are members of a specific GLO, nor can their respective GLOs claim them as members until after bid night. This, I think is to ensure that the potential pledges are not influenced to prefer one organization over the other because of who their Rush Counselor is or isn't.

If I'm wrong about any of this, would someone from one of the NPC orgs. on GC please correct me?

Originally Posted by elusive47

I'm not too sure about this, but I think the reason why, is that the women who have their faces covered up in pictures on the internet are Rush Counselors for their school's Formal Rush. From what I know, as long as they are guiding potential sorority pledges through Formal (Social [meaning not cultural] sororities hold one large scale Rush on their particular campus every year instead of several organization-specific rushes every year.) Rush, they cannot affiliate with their respective orgs. Meaning that they can't wear letters, or state that they are members of a specific GLO, nor can their respective GLOs claim them as members until after bid night. This, I think is to ensure that the potential pledges are not influenced to prefer one organization over the other because of who their Rush Counselor is or isn't.

If I'm wrong about any of this, would someone from one of the NPC orgs. on GC please correct me?

Originally Posted by OTW

For the duration of formal recruitment, NPC sororities have women who disaffiliate from their organizations to serve as recruitment counselors to Prospective New Members. They assist PNMs by answering questions and leading recruitment groups.

They cannot reveal their sorority, so they remain neutral and don't influence their PNMs, and that is why their faces are covered on chapter websites. Their affiliations are revealed once recruitment is over, on Bid Day.

Just an FYI, the official terminology used by the NPC is Recruitment. Rush is still used often, but we've been encouraged to use the proper terminology since 1999.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I fail to see how discussing legitimate societal issues is stupid.

Did you see who started this thread?

[SoCalGirl]

PM Mama, aren't you able to delete threads that you started??? Not that I think this thread should be removed.

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

PM Mama, aren't you able to delete threads that you started??? Not that I think this thread should be removed.

Members are allowed to delete their posts as long as it's not the first one of the thread. Only moderators are allowed to delete threads. If you want to get rid of a post, you can edit it so that it's blank [....] instead of actually deleting it.

Then again it's pointless if your post was quoted over and over again.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Did you see who started this thread?

I did! haha

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I hope everyone on here is reading this thread because it is definitely excellent!!!

I definately agree with this and I wanted to chime in to say that this has been a very well discussed topic and everyone here is handling themselves brilliantly with their responses.

At this juncture, I really have nothing to add, as everyone is speaking in such I way I couldn't have said it better myself.

Carry on...

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I definately agree with this and I wanted to chime in to say that this has been a very well discussed topic and everyone here is handling themselves brilliantly with their responses.

At this juncture, I really have nothing to add, as everyone is speaking in such I way I couldn't have said it better myself.

Carry on...

Yes, this thread is a model for how frank and open dialogue should run. I think it happened because some posters were actually able to take a critical look at both their side and the one they were pushing against. In this way, you get a feeling that opinions are taken seriously and you'll get more honest questions and answers that come from the heart and are not some "talking point" or propaganda.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Yes, this thread is a model for how frank and open dialogue should run. I think it happened because some posters were actually able to take a critical look at both their side and the one they were pushing against. In this way, you get a feeling that opinions are taken seriously and you'll get more honest questions and answers that come from the heart and are not some "talking point" or propaganda.

I don't see too much critical thinking of both sides going on.

It happened because this is a 5 year old thread. When old threads are resurrected, for whatever reason, the posters tend to be more levelheaded and informed. GCers who were hotheads or unaware 5 years ago may not be anymore and newer GCers with informed opinions also chime in.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

Yes, really.

Some people mix their words so much that it's unclear exactly what they're trying to say.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by KAY10

Kappa Delta you sound very intelligent and a lot of the things you say make so much sense, and I think it's great you don't label but most people are always going to label. Sad but that's the way this country has always been. People here will always see color and label.

A lot of people claim not to label in order to convey a point.

Everyone labels. EVERYONE.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

A lot of people claim not to label in order to convey a point.

Everyone labels. EVERYONE.

You're right, everyone labels. And, we don't just label by skin color but by gender, religion, social class, economic class, intelligence, athletic ability, nationality, etc. The danger is when you make assumptions about an individual based on the stereotypes associated with that label. My nationality is Italian and specifically, I'm Sicilian. I've been asked if I have relatives in the mafia simply because I'm Sicilian. Not all Sicilians are in the mafia and it's ignorant to think they are. It isn't having a label that's the problem, it's people's assumptions about you because of that label.

NPC/IFC organizations definitely have a different focus than the Divine 9 and Multicultural GLOs have an even different focus. This doesn't mean that one is better or worse. It just means there are numerous organizations out there designed to meet different people's goals/needs. The hope would be that nobody would be excluded from joining one of those organizations based only on their heritage, if they met all other membership criteria (grades, service, dedication, commitment, etc).

On my campus, wayyyy back in the mid-80's, the NPC/IFC groups and the Divine 9 groups did things together sometimes. The Divine 9 groups were always invited to participate in Greek Week, for example. Some years they voted to do so, others they didn't. I believe we all respected each other because I never heard of any animosity between the groups. And, on my campus, it was during that time period that there started to be integration within the GLOs too. It seemed like everybody just took it in stride, but it was a very diverse campus to begin with.

[GDIfly]

So.... do you have relatives in the mafia?