BGLO and GLO

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

That's cute, but there's a lot more to being devoted to uplifting the African-American community than giving kids the "stay in school" speech.

And there's a lot more to the organization than that, I was simply paraphrasing a tiny snippet of what the group does. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so condescending.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

If the organization is not reaching out and "recruiting" them, then how would they know that they would be wanted as members?

They don't but they have to WANT to become a Que,Nupe, Alpha,Sigma,Iota. Look,this is the same for black aspirants also. They have to intentionally go and talk to and build a relationship with members of the chapter. In this way a they get to know each other and one gets a better idea if this is really what they want to do. It's not normally done on a lark.If you become a member of a HBGLO it is a very intentional journey which one undertook at some point.

A brother in my grad chapter was talking and told me jokingly that once he told someone he wanted to pledge Omega (he is a legacy), Omega brothers started to "haze" him.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

They don't but they have to WANT to become a Que,Nupe, Alpha,Sigma,Iota. Look,this is the same for black aspirants also. They have to intentionally go and talk to and build a relationship with members of the chapter. In this way a they get to know each other and one gets a better idea if this is really what they want to do. It's not normally done on a lark.If you become a member of a HBGLO it is a very intentional journey which one undertook at some point.

A brother in my grad chapter was talking and told me jokingly that once he told someone he wanted to pledge Omega (he is a legacy), Omega brothers started to "haze" him.

I understand what you are saying. Thanks for the clarification!!!

[starang21]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I don't propose anything--I simply don't like labels, in general. I don't think the words "white" and "black" fully encompass all that people are.

ok.

now i'm confused as to the point you're trying to make. are you saying that everyone should recruit everyone and we should be all one big happy family?

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by starang21

ok.

now i'm confused as to the point you're trying to make. are you saying that everyone should recruit everyone and we should be all one big happy family?

I suppose I am. Then we should all sing "Koombaya," hold hands, and pretend that nothing bad ever happened to any minorities in this country. Of course I'm not saying that! I'm just saying that I would like to see more inclusiveness across the board. Of course no one should just recruit everyone or anyone--all GLOs want people that will help them strengthen their organization. I'm just saying that it might not be a bad thing to look beyond skin color.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I suppose I am. Then we should all sing "Koombaya," hold hands, and pretend that nothing bad ever happened to any minorities in this country. Of course I'm not saying that! I'm just saying that I would like to see more inclusiveness across the board. Of course no one should just recruit everyone or anyone--all GLOs want people that will help them strengthen their organization. I'm just saying that it might not be a bad thing to look beyond skin color.

that's all well and good, but for people of color, race isn't something that can be turned on and off.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by starang21

that's all well and good, but for people of color, race isn't something that can be turned on and off.

And I never said it could be. I am very well aware of this fact.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

And I never said it could be. I am very well aware of this fact.

then your dream will never occur on a large scale level

[Furious Styles]

The majority of white people will never understand or even try to show empathy for the black experience in America. Partially the responsibility is on our culture because of an under current of race, economics, and sexism that has ruled north america for well over 500 years. As a nupe I can identify with the struggle of what the word really means. Kappa Alpha Psi does have white members but these members respect the importance of our heritage and embrace our ideals within the fraternity and the African American Community. Typically these "white" brothers are submerged and fascinated with black culture. Most black people embrace these types of whites but we diss these types of blacks.

White people for the most part will accept a black person who doesn't fit the BET/MTV stereotype. There is a degree of separation in both examples because they will always be people who notice the skin tone before they notice whether a person lives the values of their organization or if this person really fits into the culture of the group. Our generation now and before us labled blacks as sell outs while the whites were labeled nigger lovers or white trash. This will never be an easy topic but should it be? Joining an organization is a personal choice that includes a commitment to upholding the core values. All of us lacking in our commitment to service to humanity (WGLO/BGLO) if we aren't cross referencing ideas that will make our communities at large a better place.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by starang21

then your dream will never occur on a large scale level

Of course it may not--we don't live in a perfect world. That doesn't mean I can't seek the higher things. We are imperfect beings, but should we not at least try to make life better for all?

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by Furious Styles

The majority of white people will never understand or even try to show empathy for the black experience in America. Partially the responsibility is on our culture because of an under current of race, economics, and sexism that has ruled north america for well over 500 years. As a nupe I can identify with the struggle of what the word really means. Kappa Alpha Psi does have white members but these members respect the culture of our heritage and embrace our ideals within the fraternity and the African American Community. Typically these "white" brothers are submerged and fascinated with black culture. Most blacks people embrace these types of whites but we diss these types of blacks.

White people for the most part will accept a black person who doesn't fit the BET/MTV stereotype. There is a degree of separation in both examples because they will always be people who notice the skin tone before they notice whether person lives the values of their organization or if this person really fits into the culture of the group. Our generation now and before us labled blacks as sell outs while the whites were labeled nigger lovers or white trash. This will never be an easy topic but should it be? Joining an organization is a personal choice that includes a commitment to upholding the core values. All of us lack this if we aren't cross referencing ideas that will make our communities at large a better place.

Well-said. I second this!

[ProspeKt]

Originally Posted by Furious Styles

The majority of white people will never understand or even try to show empathy for the black experience in America. Partially the responsibility is on our culture because of an under current of race, economics, and sexism that has ruled north america for well over 500 years. As a nupe I can identify with the struggle of what the word really means. Kappa Alpha Psi does have white members but these members respect the importance of our heritage and embrace our ideals within the fraternity and the African American Community. Typically these "white" brothers are submerged and fascinated with black culture. Most black people embrace these types of whites but we diss these types of blacks.

White people for the most part will accept a black person who doesn't fit the BET/MTV stereotype. There is a degree of separation in both examples because they will always be people who notice the skin tone before they notice whether a person lives the values of their organization or if this person really fits into the culture of the group. Our generation now and before us labled blacks as sell outs while the whites were labeled nigger lovers or white trash. This will never be an easy topic but should it be? Joining an organization is a personal choice that includes a commitment to upholding the core values. All of us lacking in our commitment to service to humanity (WGLO/BGLO) if we aren't cross referencing ideas that will make our communities at large a better place.

Sounding like THE Furious Styles himself.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

@ this thread being brought back up.

I had forgotten how dumb some of the posts were. LOL.

I second this.

Can't we just delete this thread? Some GCers are a little naive and stupid when they first sign on....

[kathykd2005]

I hope everyone on here is reading this thread because it is definitely excellent!!!

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I hope everyone on here is reading this thread because it is definitely excellent!!!

Were you posting for entertainment or to actual discuss the topic?