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Old 09-26-2006, 07:35 PM
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ok.

now i'm confused as to the point you're trying to make. are you saying that everyone should recruit everyone and we should be all one big happy family?

I suppose I am. Then we should all sing "Koombaya," hold hands, and pretend that nothing bad ever happened to any minorities in this country. Of course I'm not saying that! I'm just saying that I would like to see more inclusiveness across the board. Of course no one should just recruit everyone or anyone--all GLOs want people that will help them strengthen their organization. I'm just saying that it might not be a bad thing to look beyond skin color.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:39 PM
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I suppose I am. Then we should all sing "Koombaya," hold hands, and pretend that nothing bad ever happened to any minorities in this country. Of course I'm not saying that! I'm just saying that I would like to see more inclusiveness across the board. Of course no one should just recruit everyone or anyone--all GLOs want people that will help them strengthen their organization. I'm just saying that it might not be a bad thing to look beyond skin color.
that's all well and good, but for people of color, race isn't something that can be turned on and off.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:40 PM
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that's all well and good, but for people of color, race isn't something that can be turned on and off.

And I never said it could be. I am very well aware of this fact.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:42 PM
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And I never said it could be. I am very well aware of this fact.
then your dream will never occur on a large scale level
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:56 PM
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then your dream will never occur on a large scale level
Of course it may not--we don't live in a perfect world. That doesn't mean I can't seek the higher things. We are imperfect beings, but should we not at least try to make life better for all?
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:55 PM
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The majority of white people will never understand or even try to show empathy for the black experience in America. Partially the responsibility is on our culture because of an under current of race, economics, and sexism that has ruled north america for well over 500 years. As a nupe I can identify with the struggle of what the word really means. Kappa Alpha Psi does have white members but these members respect the importance of our heritage and embrace our ideals within the fraternity and the African American Community. Typically these "white" brothers are submerged and fascinated with black culture. Most black people embrace these types of whites but we diss these types of blacks.

White people for the most part will accept a black person who doesn't fit the BET/MTV stereotype. There is a degree of separation in both examples because they will always be people who notice the skin tone before they notice whether a person lives the values of their organization or if this person really fits into the culture of the group. Our generation now and before us labled blacks as sell outs while the whites were labeled nigger lovers or white trash. This will never be an easy topic but should it be? Joining an organization is a personal choice that includes a commitment to upholding the core values. All of us lacking in our commitment to service to humanity (WGLO/BGLO) if we aren't cross referencing ideas that will make our communities at large a better place.

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Old 09-26-2006, 07:58 PM
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The majority of white people will never understand or even try to show empathy for the black experience in America. Partially the responsibility is on our culture because of an under current of race, economics, and sexism that has ruled north america for well over 500 years. As a nupe I can identify with the struggle of what the word really means. Kappa Alpha Psi does have white members but these members respect the culture of our heritage and embrace our ideals within the fraternity and the African American Community. Typically these "white" brothers are submerged and fascinated with black culture. Most blacks people embrace these types of whites but we diss these types of blacks.

White people for the most part will accept a black person who doesn't fit the BET/MTV stereotype. There is a degree of separation in both examples because they will always be people who notice the skin tone before they notice whether person lives the values of their organization or if this person really fits into the culture of the group. Our generation now and before us labled blacks as sell outs while the whites were labeled nigger lovers or white trash. This will never be an easy topic but should it be? Joining an organization is a personal choice that includes a commitment to upholding the core values. All of us lack this if we aren't cross referencing ideas that will make our communities at large a better place.
Well-said. I second this!
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:15 PM
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Well-said. I second this!
Really?
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:17 PM
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:08 PM
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The majority of white people will never understand or even try to show empathy for the black experience in America. Partially the responsibility is on our culture because of an under current of race, economics, and sexism that has ruled north america for well over 500 years. As a nupe I can identify with the struggle of what the word really means. Kappa Alpha Psi does have white members but these members respect the importance of our heritage and embrace our ideals within the fraternity and the African American Community. Typically these "white" brothers are submerged and fascinated with black culture. Most black people embrace these types of whites but we diss these types of blacks.

White people for the most part will accept a black person who doesn't fit the BET/MTV stereotype. There is a degree of separation in both examples because they will always be people who notice the skin tone before they notice whether a person lives the values of their organization or if this person really fits into the culture of the group. Our generation now and before us labled blacks as sell outs while the whites were labeled nigger lovers or white trash. This will never be an easy topic but should it be? Joining an organization is a personal choice that includes a commitment to upholding the core values. All of us lacking in our commitment to service to humanity (WGLO/BGLO) if we aren't cross referencing ideas that will make our communities at large a better place.
Sounding like THE Furious Styles himself.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:10 PM
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I hope everyone on here is reading this thread because it is definitely excellent!!!
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I hope everyone on here is reading this thread because it is definitely excellent!!!
Were you posting for entertainment or to actual discuss the topic?
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Old 09-27-2006, 09:30 AM
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I hope everyone on here is reading this thread because it is definitely excellent!!!
I definately agree with this and I wanted to chime in to say that this has been a very well discussed topic and everyone here is handling themselves brilliantly with their responses.

At this juncture, I really have nothing to add, as everyone is speaking in such I way I couldn't have said it better myself.

Carry on...
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Old 09-26-2006, 11:53 PM
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The majority of white people will never understand or even try to show empathy for the black experience in America. Partially the responsibility is on our culture because of an under current of race, economics, and sexism that has ruled north america for well over 500 years. As a nupe I can identify with the struggle of what the word really means. Kappa Alpha Psi does have white members but these members respect the importance of our heritage and embrace our ideals within the fraternity and the African American Community. Typically these "white" brothers are submerged and fascinated with black culture. Most black people embrace these types of whites but we diss these types of blacks.

White people for the most part will accept a black person who doesn't fit the BET/MTV stereotype. There is a degree of separation in both examples because they will always be people who notice the skin tone before they notice whether a person lives the values of their organization or if this person really fits into the culture of the group. Our generation now and before us labled blacks as sell outs while the whites were labeled nigger lovers or white trash. This will never be an easy topic but should it be? Joining an organization is a personal choice that includes a commitment to upholding the core values. All of us lacking in our commitment to service to humanity (WGLO/BGLO) if we aren't cross referencing ideas that will make our communities at large a better place.
Good points Frat. Good points!
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:01 AM
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Hey, can somone clarify this for me. I've noticed that when WGLOs post pictures of their orgs. on the internet, why do some of them cover the faces of some of the members, as if their not members anymore. Can someone explain this to me?
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