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09-23-2006, 05:10 PM
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Exactly!
I don't need to be able to match the data to any one school or group, but I'd like to read about how the quota additions and release figure recruitment system works.
I wanted it to come from someone who had actual knowledge of one system's result, rather than just someone making something up about how they thought it should work.
A campus greek advisor would be ideal, but I doubt they'd be willing to post on greek chat.
As an advisor to one chapter, do you get to see other chapters' return results and releases?
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09-23-2006, 08:46 PM
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Ok, that makes sense then...
I work as my campus' Panhellenic Advisor, so I see all of the figures and know how it works from the "inside." Again, if no one objects, I'm willing to make up some sample figures to explain. I don't think it would be a problem to do this, but I'd like to get some thoughts from others before posting how it works on GC.
Advisors for individual chapters should not see other chapters' return results and releases. Those are confidential, so I don't and cannot share that information as Panhellenic Advisor. I treat release figures the same as I do PNM rankings/pref cards. But if chapters want to share, that's their perogative (not that they do on my campus).
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09-23-2006, 09:08 PM
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Excellent!
I understand wanting to get some feedback first.
You sound like the perfect person to do this.
Were you the advisor before the era of release figures and quota additions so you can contrast the old and new? I'm thrilled if I get to hear about the new alone, but I'd be interested in the comparision too.
Thanks!
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09-23-2006, 11:39 PM
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Last year was my first year as the Panhellenic Advisor and our campus' first year with the new release figures, but I had to pull together the previous 3 years of release figures info in order to be ready for the new method. I also assisted my chapter for 2 years on the alumnae side before that, so I know how the old method worked as well.
Just from a general perspective, the new method is awesome- not only does it make parties smaller and easier for chapters to manage (there may be some disagreement with me on this part, esp. from larger campuses), it also gives a PNM more realistic choices throughout the recruitment process and keeps a larger percentage of PNMs in the process longer. We saw a lot of great results from it last year, though some of our chapters were hesitant and worried with their release numbers. In the end, 5 of the 6 chapters ended up making quota (4 of them with QAs) and the one that didn't make it was only off by 2 members. It was the best turnout in terms of chapters making quota (and getting close to it) that our campus has had in at least 10 years.
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09-24-2006, 11:03 AM
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Those results sound great!
It sound like it's working perfectly at your campus!
Are there groups who still resist using the release figures?
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09-24-2006, 02:45 PM
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I have to admit, I was very much against release figures - too much control and all that.
But our campus used it this year. There are eleven constant sororities - just enough that a twelfth one comes on campus as regular as clockwork, and another one goes under. This year, NINE out of eleven sororities made either Quota or Quota Plus. This was astonishing, given the school's greek history.
So, I'm a convert. Another year or two of these Formal Recruitments, and maybe a twelfth sorority can return - to stay!
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09-24-2006, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga
It sound like it's working perfectly at your campus!
Are there groups who still resist using the release figures?
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Yes, it's working wonderfully for our campus. I'm hoping we get great results again this year.
No one really resists release figures on my campus. When we were on the old method, some chapters wouldn't follow their recommended figures; this ended up helping the chapters in terms of getting more PNMs to maintain their interest, but didn't always help the PNMs (i.e. they'd get cut later in the process which led to hurt feelings and more withdrawls). The chapters weren't all thrilled with the new method last year; chapters that have strong recruiting skills were bothered with having to cut so many in the beginning and less strong chapters were bothered with not having the option to be as selective as they'd like to be. So there are pros and cons, but it works out in the end for everyone.
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09-25-2006, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by gphiangel624
less strong chapters were bothered with not having the option to be as selective as they'd like to be.
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Can't they choose to not invite people back, even if they do end up with a smaller group? I thought the release figure methods were to keep the bigger chapters from going overboard, not to force any chapter to invite women they don't want.
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09-25-2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gphiangel624
Last year was my first year as the Panhellenic Advisor and our campus' first year with the new release figures, but I had to pull together the previous 3 years of release figures info in order to be ready for the new method. I also assisted my chapter for 2 years on the alumnae side before that, so I know how the old method worked as well.
Just from a general perspective, the new method is awesome- not only does it make parties smaller and easier for chapters to manage (there may be some disagreement with me on this part, esp. from larger campuses), it also gives a PNM more realistic choices throughout the recruitment process and keeps a larger percentage of PNMs in the process longer. We saw a lot of great results from it last year, though some of our chapters were hesitant and worried with their release numbers. In the end, 5 of the 6 chapters ended up making quota (4 of them with QAs) and the one that didn't make it was only off by 2 members. It was the best turnout in terms of chapters making quota (and getting close to it) that our campus has had in at least 10 years.
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I would love to hear the "new release figure method" from a greek/panhellenic advisor point of view. (I am a recruitment advisor) - AND I AM TOTALLY biased for ADPi - so I can only visualize - any rules - from my chapters or my sororities point of view.
panhellenically yours
connie
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