Dirty Rush

[PinkandGreenJ]

I was dirty rushed and frankly it was fun. I ended up at a top house and never complained, not that I would really have thought to or thought that it wsa "dirty" anyway.

[ashleythetao199]

Okay, so the thing is if it is during formal, there should be no contact with pnms at all outside of recruitment events. However, many organizations do it if they can keep it under the radar. You are not responsible for this decision, the chapter is. So I wouldn't worry about it too much because it's the chapter who will get in trouble if caught. However, if it bothers you that they are being unfair then go with your gut. On another note though... if it is not during formal, taking girls to dinner or having lunch together may be considered a COR for that chapter and there is nothing wrong with that as long as they aren't bid promising or buying your dinner. I mean if it is dinner in the dining hall, that is way different than to a 5 star restaurant.

[WCUgirl]

Originally Posted by OtterXO

The funny thing about dirty rushing is that the damage is already done by the time the fine is paid by the house. I've heard of situations where the rush chair in a chapter will be in contact with the disaffiliated rush counselors, etc. There's really no way to stop that sort of stuff. Plus, if the chapter is caught....the penalty is money. It's not like they lose their pledge class.

It seems like there needs to be a bigger penalty for violating the rules so that chapters won't do things like build the infractions into dues, etc.

I completely agree. I think they SHOULD lose new members, or not be allowed to participate in recruitment the following year, or something more strict than simply fining them. But, whatever.

[ΞΤtexas]

at my school, we have all local sororities and deferred rush. Therefore, there are no rules on contacting pnms and the term "dirty rush" doesn't even exist because it's pretty much required.

[33girl]

Check with your sorority's exec board or Panhel representative. Some schools have passed really strict rules regarding myspace & facebook and it's better to be safe than sorry.

[fantASTic]

So.. our school calls the restrictions placed on actives before FR "normal social contact." Am I the ONLY one who finds this title ridiculous?? I'm sorry, but not being allowed to study with 'potentials' is NOT normal social contact. Having to refuse a Facebook request (which, for those of you who haven't hopped on that bandwagon, is akin to slapping someone in the face almost) is not normal social contact.

I wish they would just be honest and call it "acting like a stereotypical stuck up sorority girl that won't talk to you" conduct.

[alphagamgirl06]

I honestly think not adding a pnm as a facebook is stupid. I understand that the rule is there to try to stop dirty rushing, but the truth is it really doesn't. People who are going to dirty rush are going to do it anyway. There are too many ways on facebook to talk to someone with out being there friend that there really isn't a need for the friend on facebook rule. I doubt someone who is bold enough to dirty rush is going to be bold(stupid) enough to do it out in the open and get caught.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

So.. our school calls the restrictions placed on actives before FR "normal social contact." Am I the ONLY one who finds this title ridiculous?? I'm sorry, but not being allowed to study with 'potentials' is NOT normal social contact. Having to refuse a Facebook request (which, for those of you who haven't hopped on that bandwagon, is akin to slapping someone in the face almost) is not normal social contact.

I wish they would just be honest and call it "acting like a stereotypical stuck up sorority girl that won't talk to you" conduct.

This is why deferred rush gets a bad rap.

I would tell the Panhel that denying these things goes against one of the major tenets of deferred (i.e. PNMs get to know sorority members outside of the structured rush environment) and try to get them changed.

[fantASTic]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This is why deferred rush gets a bad rap.

I would tell the Panhel that denying these things goes against one of the major tenets of deferred (i.e. PNMs get to know sorority members outside of the structured rush environment) and try to get them changed.

We don't have deferred. We do, however, have recruitment during the middle of first semester. So there's still several weeks where you cannot even ride in a car with a PNM...even if that 'potential' is graduating that same semester.

[ASTalumna06]

I find all of this very interesting coming from a chapter that has 3 sororities and COB all year long. There are definitely positives and negatives to all of these rules.

In some respects, we had similar rules. PNMs are not allowed to leave a recruitment event with "gifts", and we actually can't give gifts on bid day either, because PNMs still have the option at that point of not signing it, and to give them a gift would be convincing them to do so. We also can't bid promise or anything of that nature. But we can talk to/go out with any PNM at any time... as long as we're not paying for them.

It's interesting to see that even at larger campuses with chapters at 50+ members, equality for each chapter is still maintained. On my campus, the closest thing we ever had to "unity" among chapters during recruitment is what we call a "kick-off" recruitment party at the beginning of each semester, which I actually helped to create when I was Panhel President. Basically, it's like a formal recruitment night where PNMs are required to visit all 3 chapters for 30 to 45 minutes at a time in order for the PNMs to experience each chapter. In some instances, it helps girls to figure out where they really want to be. In other cases, girls already know where they want to be, and they go to the kick-off party because a certain chapter encourages them to go.

But it's competitive for us because while one chapter might get 10 girls in one semester, another chapter will get 3.

And to be honest, my chapter is the only one that has always followed the rules and not bid promised or things like that. One of the chapters actually got caught doing this a couple years ago and was penalized for it.

We're usually the chapter to get the 3 girls while the other chapter gets 10. But I'd much rather have 3 quality girls that we struggled to get than not follow rules and bid everyone we meet.

It's fascinating to see how many similarities and differences there are between campuses.