Bad Boys

KAY10 · #1 09-19-2006, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OtterXO

OMG. She wasn't saying she's a horrible person who would take advantage of someone when given the chance. She means that she wants a man who can stand up for himself, not "yes" her to death and have an opinion that isn't directly dependent on HER opinion. She doesn't want a guy who is a freaking doormat because IT'S NOT AN ATTRACTIVE QUALITY. I've heard plenty of guys say that they want the same thing in a woman, so this isn't only about men.

When I said nice guy, not one time did I say doormat or a nice guy is a guy who says yes and if you say jump he says how high. Why do women consider this a nice guy? I was reading all these post and virtually all of them describe a nice guy as being soft and a whimp. That's proof right there that most women believe that a nice guy is considered to be a whimpy mama's boy who can't make his own decisions. Ladies......this is not a nice guy. This is a boy not a man.

The difinintion that I have for a nice man is one who knows how to treat a lady like a gentleman should treat a lady, not one who can't make up his own mind.

A nice woman is a woman who not only respects herself, but one who has her own opinions and is able to make her own decisions and one who also wants a man that repsects her and treats her like a lady.

The bad boy is the player, user, and the one who disresprects women every chance he gets. Based on these post it seems to me that women feel this is the definition of a strong man.

macallan25 · #2 09-19-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KAY10

When I said nice guy, not one time did I say doormat or a nice guy is a guy who says yes and if you say jump he says how high. Why do women consider this a nice guy? I was reading all these post and virtually all of them describe a nice guy as being soft and a whimp. That's proof right there that most women believe that a nice guy is considered to be a whimpy mama's boy who can't make his own decisions. Ladies......this is not a nice guy. This is a boy not a man.

The difinintion that I have for a nice man is one who knows how to treat a lady like a gentleman should treat a lady, not one who can't make up his own mind.

A nice woman is a woman who not only respects herself, but one who has her own opinions and is able to make her own decisions and one who also wants a man that repsects her and treats her like a lady.

The bad boy is the player, user, and the one who disresprects women every chance he gets. Based on these post it seems to me that women feel this is the definition of a strong man.

I think you should calm down.

AKA_Monet · #3 09-19-2006, 04:38 PM

KAY10

I married a nice guy and I used to date a whole bunch a thugs.

The reasons why: because at least I'd expect the thug to do me wrong. Maybe 'cuz of poor self-esteem on my part, maybe because I thought I was less deserving. Whatever the reasons. The fact that I wasted my time and psyche with fools who cared less about me.

But then, there's this thing about "God's time". Well, I wasn't on His time and I had to wait. I tried to force it, but it never worked or it worked for the worst.

Then, I had a "paradigm shift", short of a "revelation" from God. And that's when I met my now husband...

So, I think you've got to give some time to growing up and experiencing life before you "settle down" with someone you make your spouse. Slow down, homey...

Also, the flip side of your question:

Why is it that bruhs only like fake heifered strippers with no clothes on and 10 inch hells. That have 5 kids from 7 different baby's daddies. Living in the bottom with no direction in life but ho'ing?

And don't say she lookeded real good up in the club after a few drinks...

preciousjeni · #4 09-19-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

That have 5 kids from 7 different baby's daddies

Monet, girl, ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KAY10 · #5 09-20-2006, 04:58 AM

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KAY10

I married a nice guy and I used to date a whole bunch a thugs.

The reasons why: because at least I'd expect the thug to do me wrong. Maybe 'cuz of poor self-esteem on my part, maybe because I thought I was less deserving. Whatever the reasons. The fact that I wasted my time and psyche with fools who cared less about me.

But then, there's this thing about "God's time". Well, I wasn't on His time and I had to wait. I tried to force it, but it never worked or it worked for the worst.

Then, I had a "paradigm shift", short of a "revelation" from God. And that's when I met my now husband...

So, I think you've got to give some time to growing up and experiencing life before you "settle down" with someone you make your spouse. Slow down, homey...

Also, the flip side of your question:

Why is it that bruhs only like fake heifered strippers with no clothes on and 10 inch hells. That have 5 kids from 7 different baby's daddies. Living in the bottom with no direction in life but ho'ing?

And don't say she lookeded real good up in the club after a few drinks...

LOL. Some men are just irresponsible.

That's all I was saying. A lot of women date the thugs when they're younger. It's when they get older that they want to marry a nice guy. All I'm saying is I wouldn't go behind a thug, because they make a lot of women too insecure with themselves.

You must think I'm the typical nice guy because I posted this thread. Well I'm not, but I do respect women. I just see a lot of young women in seriuos relationships with the thugs though. I just posted this because I wanted to get other opinions and to see if people would agree with me, and most of you do. I posted a thread on hazing like 100 others, but I never was a hazer. I post to chat.

KAY10 · #6 09-20-2006, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I think you should calm down.

LOL. You thought I was going hysterical? LOL. No I wasn't. I've always been pretty laid back. If I was uptight about something there would probably be exclamation marks after each sentence. This is just a chat site. I wouldn't get uptight on something like this. Just wanted different opinions.

kddani · #7 09-20-2006, 06:38 AM

This thread reminds me of this thread: http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...highlight=lame

Not only in content, but in the sheer bullheadedness of the OP of each poster in the thread. They each say they're just asking for different opinions. But then when someone gives an opinion they don't like, they try to convert them and argue and argue.

OtterXO · #8 09-19-2006, 05:06 PM

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Based on these post it seems to me that women feel this is the definition of a strong man.

No. You are completely wrong. If you got that from the posts above then you should really go back and re-read them. It seems to me like you've decided that you have all women pegged....so there's really nothing any of us can say to change your mind. Good luck to you.

KAY10 · #9 09-20-2006, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OtterXO

No. You are completely wrong. If you got that from the posts above then you should really go back and re-read them. It seems to me like you've decided that you have all women pegged....so there's really nothing any of us can say to change your mind. Good luck to you.

I don't think anyone is wrong. Everyone has their own opinion. I didn't say all women, I said most women are like this. You're right I have my own opinion, and I'm not trying to change yours. In fact from reading the post I don't think anyone really disageed with me, I just think a lot of women have the wrong definition of a nice man. I don't think a nice man is a doormat.

OtterXO · #10 09-20-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KAY10

I don't think anyone is wrong. Everyone has their own opinion. I didn't say all women, I said most women are like this. You're right I have my own opinion, and I'm not trying to change yours. In fact from reading the post I don't think anyone really disageed with me, I just think a lot of women have the wrong definition of a nice man. I don't think a nice man is a doormat.

Actually you did say all women. You said

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Based on these post it seems to me that women feel this is the definition of a strong man.

And based on that statement I said

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you are completely wrong.

Seriously, take a look at the thread that kddani posted the link to.....because it's basically the same type of circular conversation that we're having here. Maybe it's a result of my legal training, but a circular conversation isn't really equal to a debate in my mind.

KAY10 · #11 09-22-2006, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by OtterXO

Actually you did say all women. You said And based on that statement I said

Seriously, take a look at the thread that kddani posted the link to.....because it's basically the same type of circular conversation that we're having here. Maybe it's a result of my legal training, but a circular conversation isn't really equal to a debate in my mind.

That's cool. You and kddani are entitled to your opinions. In my mind I think it's a good topic.

kddani · #12 09-22-2006, 06:47 AM

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That's cool. You and kddani are entitled to your opinions. In my mind I think it's a good topic.

It's not even the topic. It's the way you keep trying to battle everyone.

AlphaFrog · #13 09-22-2006, 08:15 AM

If you are a guy who complains about women who don't like "nice guys" you have a 90% chance of being a doormat, not a "nice guy".

KAY10 · #14 09-27-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani

It's not even the topic. It's the way you keep trying to battle everyone.

I'm not trying to battle anyone. I'm just trying to have a conversation and get other opinions. No one has to agree with me. If you don't like this thread then ignore it. Good grief!