Case of the Handsign

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple

Serious question: Did y'all attend a PWI or HBCU?

I attended a PWI, and I see your point. Gamma Sigma Sigma exists at several campuses (sp?) in Georgia including UGA, Clark Atlanta University, and Spelman College. I know I've seen pictures of CAU Gamma Sigs throwing up their handsign, but I don't know any Gamma Sigs from UGA - black, white, etc - who ran around campus throwing handsigns, doing calls, or wearing jackets.

At the same time, KKPsi should adopt their own thing. (IMO, most of the all/mostly black chapters of orgs non-NPHC orgs should not try to fit in with NPHC behavior by doing what we do when you are not who we are. But we've already been there in that Howard Pike thread.) I know your handsign is similar to Phi Beta Sigma's. I don't see the difference, but if KKPsi and PBS see the difference, that's fine. What's not cool is your bruh because he's throwing up KKPsi sign as if he's throwing up somebody else's hook. I don't see Kappas or Alphas throwing up their signs in anything like a hook.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

I attended a PWI, and I see your point.

*gasp* So it isn't just about HBCU vs. PWI?

[Soul D-Psi-ple]

Originally Posted by jojapeach

I attended a PWI, and I see your point. Gamma Sigma Sigma exists at several campuses (sp?) in Georgia including UGA, Clark Atlanta University, and Spelman College. I know I've seen pictures of CAU Gamma Sigs throwing up their handsign, but I don't know any Gamma Sigs from UGA - black, white, etc - who ran around campus throwing handsigns, doing calls, or wearing jackets.

At the same time, KKPsi should adopt their own thing. (IMO, most of the all/mostly black chapters of orgs non-NPHC orgs should not try to fit in with NPHC behavior by doing what we do when you are not who we are. But we've already been there in that Howard Pike thread.) I know your handsign is similar to Phi Beta Sigma's. I don't see the difference, but if KKPsi and PBS see the difference, that's fine. What's not cool is your bruh because he's throwing up KKPsi sign as if he's throwing up somebody else's hook. I don't see Kappas or Alphas throwing up their signs in anything like a hook.

Anything and everything that WE do now has been going on loooooooooooong before many of you crossed into your respective orgs. WE have adopted our OWN thing. We step (many pre-dominantly white chapters step as well), we party hop(as do our PWI chapters), we have a handsign (PWI chapters throw it too), we have a call (yes, it's official), and if you don't like it, oh well. We don't give a damn. Deal with it. KKPsi and TBSigma are going to keep doing what we do. The bruh throwing up the Psi like a hook should actually have both hands up with his body forming a Psi. It's not new, it's rather ancient (old school). Many bruhs nowadays don't do it like that (including myself) because it looks too familiar to Omega hooks. Out of respect for my bruhs who are Omega's, I don't do it. As for the KKPsi vs PBS handsign, the only difference is we have the thumb out and they have it in. Simple. We work hard and handle our own. How about you let us do us and y'all do what y'all do? Y'all shouldn't let your insecurities get to you.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple

Anything and everything that WE do now has been going on loooooooooooong before many of you crossed into your respective orgs. WE have adopted our OWN thing. We step (many pre-dominantly white chapters step as well), we party hop(as do our PWI chapters), we have a handsign (PWI chapters throw it too), we have a call (yes, it's official), and if you don't like it, oh well. We don't give a damn. Deal with it. KKPsi and TBSigma are going to keep doing what we do. The bruh throwing up the Psi like a hook should actually have both hands up with his body forming a Psi. It's not new, it's rather ancient (old school). Many bruhs nowadays don't do it like that (including myself) because it looks too familiar to Omega hooks. Out of respect for my bruhs who are Omega's, I don't do it. As for the KKPsi vs PBS handsign, the only difference is we have the thumb out and they have it in. Simple. We work hard and handle our own. How about you let us do us and y'all do what y'all do? Y'all shouldn't let your insecurities get to you.

^^^ doesn't care what people think of his org

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple

Anything and everything that WE do now has been going on loooooooooooong before many of you crossed into your respective orgs. WE have adopted our OWN thing. We step (many pre-dominantly white chapters step as well), we party hop(as do our PWI chapters), we have a handsign (PWI chapters throw it too), we have a call (yes, it's official), and if you don't like it, oh well. We don't give a damn. Deal with it. KKPsi and TBSigma are going to keep doing what we do. The bruh throwing up the Psi like a hook should actually have both hands up with his body forming a Psi. It's not new, it's rather ancient (old school). Many bruhs nowadays don't do it like that (including myself) because it looks too familiar to Omega hooks. Out of respect for my bruhs who are Omega's, I don't do it. As for the KKPsi vs PBS handsign, the only difference is we have the thumb out and they have it in. Simple. We work hard and handle our own. How about you let us do us and y'all do what y'all do? Y'all shouldn't let your insecurities get to you.

What do you consider "old school"?

No matter how old your "traditions" are in your org, it will always seem to others that your org simply saw things that other folks were doing and said "that looks cool, lets do it too!". I've attended 2 PWI's and visited many others, and I've never seen those chapters with handsigns, calls, line names, etc. But mysteriously, chapters at HBCUs want to imitate what they see D9 orgs do. I don't know if its a case of "I didn't make line for XYZ so I'll take the next best thing" or you simply want to fit in with everyone else.

Yeah, I said it...You look like copycats.

[Soul D-Psi-ple]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

What do you consider "old school"?

No matter how old your "traditions" are in your org, it will always seem to others that your org simply saw things that other folks were doing and said "that looks cool, lets do it too!" (We copy no one. I've seen NPHC orgs copy us actually on many occasions.). I've attended 2 PWI's (Good for you!!!!! ) and visited many others, and I've never seen those chapters with handsigns, calls, line names, etc. But mysteriously, chapters at HBCUs want to imitate what they see D9 orgs do. I don't know if its a case of "I didn't make line for XYZ so I'll take the next best thing" (Are you serious? LOL Girl, you need to stop. )or you simply want to fit in with everyone else.

Yeah, I said it...You look like copycats.

"Yeah, I said it....You look like copycats"

I bet you screamed that at your monitor while you typed it. "YEA, I SAID IT!!!" LOL Gone 'head girl! Tell 'em why you mad!!!

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple

"Yeah, I said it....You look like copycats"

I bet you screamed that at your monitor while you typed it. "YEA, I SAID IT!!!" LOL Gone 'head girl! Tell 'em why you mad!!!

No need to scream, but its a true statement...

Its amazing how far folks will go to fit in. EVERYBODY wants to have a step show and line jackets and calls and handsigns like the D9, but not everyone wants to do the work that being in a D9 org requires.

[Soul D-Psi-ple]

Like what? What do YOU do?

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple

Like what? What do YOU do?

What do I do? Well, while I was pursuing membership in my beloved sorority, I was working 2 part-time jobs, taking 16 credits in chemistry, doing academic research, was a regional officer for another organization, and a chapter officer for Alpha Chi Sigma (that's the professional chemistry fraternity if you aren't aware). As a part of several organizations I was putting on programs and doing community service.

Now that I am a member, I've done lots of the community as a part of 2 chapters. As a undergrad I've organized a bone marrow donor drive, organized programs on safe sex and time management, and tutored twice a month at a local elementary school. As a grad chapter member I've worked with our debutante ball, attended March of Dimes and AIDS walks, organized programming for our Wee Savers programs and contributed time and money to Operation Big Book Bag. And that doesn't even include everything that I've done with my chapter, and I did it as a full time PhD student.

Now, what have YOU done? Does your org even have a service requirement?

[Soul D-Psi-ple]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

No need to scream, but its a true statement...

Its amazing how far folks will go to fit in. EVERYBODY wants to have a step show and line jackets and calls and handsigns like the D9.

You said that like 8 posts back. Say something different.

[PhrozenGod01]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

No need to scream, but its a true statement...

Its amazing how far folks will go to fit in. EVERYBODY wants to have a step show and line jackets and calls and handsigns like the D9, but not everyone wants to do the work that being in a D9 org requires.

It's very true. I remember as a freshman, the IFC/NPC's on my campus had rather generic sweatshirts. Maybe their letters and chapter designation in whatever color they chose. As soon as My line crossed we rocked the coldest hoodies ever. That following fall, it seemed like every NPC/IFC chapter bought new hoodies with their specific colors and pledge class info in the same spots as our sweatshirts had. They didn't go as far as party hopping or calling (I don't think), but it was just obvious. They wanted to look cool.

I don't take it too seriously though. I'd love to picture my jewels calling on the yard at Cornell, strolling, and just being out in the coldest line jackets ever. Unfortunately, the founders of my fraternity didn't stroll, would wonder what a hoodie was, and didn't have chant-offs with anybody. The founders of most fraternities and sororities (Those founded before 1940 most likely) didn't show off that kind of stuff. Maybe in private, but, there were more important things to worry about at the time. Way more important things.

[Soul D-Psi-ple]

Hmmm....an intelligent post.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

I don't take it too seriously though. I'd love to picture my jewels calling on the yard at Cornell, strolling, and just being out in the coldest line jackets ever. Unfortunately, the founders of my fraternity didn't stroll, would wonder what a hoodie was, and didn't have chant-offs with anybody. The founders of most fraternities and sororities (Those founded before 1940 most likely) didn't show off that kind of stuff. Maybe in private, but, there were more important things to worry about at the time. Way more important things.

Yet we can still be entertained by it all and post about it.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

No need to scream, but its a true statement...

Its amazing how far folks will go to fit in. EVERYBODY wants to have a step show and line jackets and calls and handsigns like the D9, but not everyone wants to do the work that being in a D9 org requires.

Whassamatter, scared of a little competition?

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Whassamatter, scared of a little competition?

Kappa Kappa Psi will NEVER be competition to my sisterhood...