Hi! How active are alumnae chapters/members are? (New here)

[angelica_arin]

I personally think it will help a lot if the sticky thread actually lists the most main connections you have to have in order to become an AI with a NPC sorority. I was under the impression after reading that thread that anyone, even without connections can contact them by themselves. This causes quite a confusion to those when I read some other threads. By just saying you can be an AI if you're a professional leader, or housewife, doesn't really help.

From my personal belief, as long as I found a group that I can connect with, it doesn't matter if it's an NPC group or not. So I found the list of alternatives to be helpful. Which makes me believe those who pursue AI with NPCs without any connection are those who just want to wear the letters because they are huge. If they have friends there, then I understand. I go for a group that is active and I can make friends with and do things together. NPC or not, it doesn't matter to me. I know my reason why I look for a group.

So my point is, I wish the sticky thread can clear those misconceptions somehow, if you want to avoid these threads in general. That's just my 2 cents...

And SmartBlondeGPhB, whether I sound like a troll to you, do I really care at all? or does it even matter to you?

[kddani]

Originally Posted by angelica_arin

I personally think it will help a lot if the sticky thread actually lists the most main connections you have to have in order to become an AI with a NPC sorority. I was under the impression after reading that thread that anyone, even without connections can contact them by themselves. This causes quite a confusion to those when I read some other threads. By just saying you can be an AI if you're a professional leader, or housewife, doesn't really help.
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So my point is, I wish the sticky thread can clear those misconceptions somehow, if you want to avoid these threads in general. That's just my 2 cents...

Well that might help you, but it's not information that you're necessarily entitled to. That information is NOT public for most groups and can vary from case to case. As has been discussed here on GC a ton, it is NOT GC's place to list the membership policies of various organizations. Many groups are NOT open to some Jane Doe walking in off the street saying hey, I wanna be a member.

[angelica_arin]

Originally Posted by kddani

Well that might help you, but it's not information that you're necessarily entitled to. That information is NOT public for most groups and can vary from case to case. As has been discussed here on GC a ton, it is NOT GC's place to list the membership policies of various organizations. Many groups are NOT open to some Jane Doe walking in off the street saying hey, I wanna be a member.

I guess I could understand that, but it's kinda funny when you see threads like "Shopping for sororities" come out with girls trying to find a place without any connections, and others have to explain to every single thread like this that if they don't have the connections, it's hard, but not impossible. A general statement might help, to avoid future threads like this. Just to give them heads up, you know?

But i understand a policy is a policy, of course GC doesn't have a say of what other NPC's policies are....that's another of my 2 cents again

[kddani]

Originally Posted by angelica_arin

I guess I could understand that, but it's kinda funny when you see threads like "Shopping for sororities" come out with girls trying to find a place without any connections, and others have to explain to every single thread like this that if they don't have the connections, it's hard, but not impossible. A general statement might help, to avoid future threads like this. Just to give them heads up, you know?

But i understand a policy is a policy, of course GC doesn't have a say of what other NPC's policies are....that's another of my 2 cents again

Of course, if people came to GC who were potentially interested in AI, and they read some of the threads to get more info, they'd find this out pretty quickly.

[angelica_arin]

Originally Posted by kddani

Of course, if people came to GC who were potentially interested in AI, and they read some of the threads to get more info, they'd find this out pretty quickly.

yeah, though it was still a bit confusing to me, haha but I can't help but to wonder why some others haven't look into the possibilities of these other sororities that BetaRose posted, or at least didn't have too many threads about their experiences in those sororities. They really seem like a great alternative too. I mean, why would you want to join a sorority out of no where that most of the time (and I mean "most" not "all") they accept members based on some sort of connection with the group, and yet the potential AI has no connection with the group or whatsoever and just say they want to join?

oh well...let's just say I'm always confused

[_Lisa_]

Originally Posted by angelica_arin

I mean, why would you want to join a sorority out of no where that most of the time (and I mean "most" not "all") they accept members based on some sort of connection with the group, and yet the potential AI has no connection with the group or whatsoever and just say they want to join?

oh well...let's just say I'm always confused

Although I can't say for sure why potential AI'ers with no connection to an organization would be interested in joining, but my biggest fear as an active alumna is that the potential AI'er would be looking to join for superficial reasons. One girl even came through here & admitted that she thought she'd have better chances at finding a husband through joining a GLO.

I know thats why I seem automatically skeptical of any potential AI'er who comes to GC & seems to be "shoppping" for an NPC organization to join.

[blueGBI]

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm currently smelling Eau de Troll here....

[AChiOhSnap]

Originally Posted by angelica_arin

I can't help but to wonder why some others haven't look into the possibilities of these other sororities that BetaRose posted, or at least didn't have too many threads about their experiences in those sororities. They really seem like a great alternative too. I mean, why would you want to join a sorority out of no where that most of the time (and I mean "most" not "all") they accept members based on some sort of connection with the group, and yet the potential AI has no connection with the group or whatsoever and just say they want to join?

I wonder that myself, but I think sometimes it's a situation where a woman is dropped from XYZ (the biggest, prettiest and most popular house on campus) during undergraduate recruitment and starts getting excited when she hears about the existence of AI.... it's like her dreams can finally be realized and she can proudly sport the sweatshirt and bag of the sorority that never accepted her... and now she can be one of the "popular girls" from college

OR it's a situation where a woman was so totally awkward and socially inept during college that she got dropped from every single sorority after the open house rounds. After spending a few years wondering "What if...?", she stumbles across the existence of AI and is like "OH MY GOD!!! ANOTHER CHANCE!!!!" and starts aggressively pursuing every organization under the sun.

I think both of these circumstances account for the vast majority of these "out of the blue" PNAMs. I think you can agree that both of these situations are horrible reasons to pursue AI.

I personally think the *only* good reason to pursue AI is because a member(s) of one specific organization with whom you're close asks you to pursue AI. I can see someone doing that for their biological sister, or their mom, or their very best friend. I can also see a faculty advisor being recommended for AI by the undergraduate chapter with which she works. There are a few other scattered reasons that are also good, but most of these are complete anomalies (blueangel's 20 year pledge period is a good example of an exception).

I really, really wish that more women would look into community sororities and organizations. They seem like fantastic groups, and (correct me if I'm wrong) but they seem more geared towards adult women -- and I think many of these PNAMs would find everything they're looking for in a community sorority (friendship, sisterhood, ritual, philanthropy, etc). I think it would be silly for them to "lose business" and interest to the Alumnae Initiation programs of various organizations.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by angelica_arin

I guess I could understand that, but it's kinda funny when you see threads like "Shopping for sororities" come out with girls trying to find a place without any connections, and others have to explain to every single thread like this that if they don't have the connections, it's hard, but not impossible. A general statement might help, to avoid future threads like this. Just to give them heads up, you know?

But i understand a policy is a policy, of course GC doesn't have a say of what other NPC's policies are....that's another of my 2 cents again

The "Shopping for Sororities" thread was sort of a "What not to do" sort of thing - think of us as the Stacy & Clinton of AIing. Apparently, you didn't actually get around to reading anything of it except the title.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by angelica_arin

I personally think it will help a lot if the sticky thread actually lists the most main connections you have to have in order to become an AI with a NPC sorority.

It's been discussed at length and closed. It's not a good idea. None of us on here can officially speak for our sororities, and we are not "in the market" for AIs, and making a list creates the impression we are.

Once again, GC is not the Mall of the Sororites, we don't want people shopping here. (Researching, looking, browsing, whatever you want to call it)

And may I add, a wise GCer once said "Wanting to know, even for a good reason, is not entitlement to know".

AI is not easy, and no one here can help make it any easier or give you any shortcuts.

[KunjaPrincess]

Originally Posted by angelica_arin

And SmartBlondeGPhB, whether I sound like a troll to you, do I really care at all? or does it even matter to you?

You may as well cross Gamma Phi off then since you don't care what our valuable members think. Remember anything you say on here can come back and bite you later. There are international officers from MANY organizations on here and an AI is not hard to figure out who they are from the applications. Most orgs don't do that many a year.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally Posted by KunjaPrincess

You may as well cross Gamma Phi off then since you don't care what our valuable members think. Remember anything you say on here can come back and bite you later. There are international officers from MANY organizations on here and an AI is not hard to figure out who they are from the applications. Most orgs don't do that many a year.

LOL, thanks for the comment. I didn't read the responses after mine close enough and missed what she said. Guess I'll have to pay more attention to this one....