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09-12-2006, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
Tom: NPC expansion WORKS for the vast majority of cases. Women who choose not to join existing GLOs do not tend to do so because of the GLO in question, but because of the women in the GLOs. Those women would be the same no matter the letters because they're all coming from the university
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Hm, while an interesting point, the smaller amount of GLOs to choose from narrows down the selection process for the PNMs doesnt it?
If let us say, that PNMs are looking for a certain GLO and it is not there, they do not want to join or they do not like the women in the existing GLOs, then where do they go (?), No where and do not join any GLO.
As said in another Thread about Affiliation and Transfering, that is to me wrong. It is used as a stepping stone and will not work out as each chapter is a different entity while the same so to speak.
To be a happy Sister or Brother, it has to work both ways for both parties.
How many Alums have been lost because they joined just to join and say I was a so and so member of ABC.
Expansion needs to be strongly considered in many ways, but not well, None are making numbers!
The question should be, why are they not making numbers? Where is the problem?
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If there are not enough women to fill up all of the chapters on campus, there does not need to be another chapter on campus.
If one chapter is failing, it will close and open up the opportunity for another chapter.
If all 26 NPC sororities were on every campus, there would be a few with 100 members and a few with 2. The small ones cannot function this way, much less run a house.
Going Greek is great. For women who drop because they don't like the letters they're doing it to themselves. For women who drop because they couldn't find a fit, it has more to do with the entire Greek culture of that campus then whether or not XYZ was there.
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Reason: Because Tom broke the quotes
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09-12-2006, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
If there are not enough women to fill up all of the chapters on campus, there does not need to be another chapter on campus.
If one chapter is failing, it will close and open up the opportunity for another chapter.
If all 26 NPC sororities were on every campus, there would be a few with 100 members and a few with 2. The small ones cannot function this way, much less run a house.
Going Greek is great. For women who drop because they don't like the letters they're doing it to themselves. For women who drop because they couldn't find a fit, it has more to do with the entire Greek culture of that campus then whether or not XYZ was there.
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I have asked this many times.
When a State Un. had 6500 + Students then there is/are Women there to join if they desire and dont, then where is the problem?
There may be Sororitys that some heart for or hear of and they are not there and are limited to who they may choose from brings me to the conclusion that maybe there is a lacking some where?
If the choices are not there for them, then why join if they do not like the women in those GLOs?
Most State Schools are not emuried with Greeks as some of the Big Southern or Major Uns., but what does one do to find friendship if not a member of a small and select few?
Dont each GLO attempt to recruit those who are like themselves?
What if other women do not like or feel like they want to be a part of them for what ever reason?
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09-12-2006, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
I have asked this many times.
When a State Un. had 6500 + Students then there is/are Women there to join if they desire and dont, then where is the problem?
There may be Sororitys that some heart for or hear of and they are not there and are limited to who they may choose from brings me to the conclusion that maybe there is a lacking some where?
If the choices are not there for them, then why join if they do not like the women in those GLOs?
Most State Schools are not emuried with Greeks as some of the Big Southern or Major Uns., but what does one do to find friendship if not a member of a small and select few?
Dont each GLO attempt to recruit those who are like themselves?
What if other women do not like or feel like they want to be a part of them for what ever reason?
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My translator broke and I can't even begin to understand your post. To summarize: GLOs are made up or women on campus. On one campus they could be the "smart brunettes" on another the "Barbies" etc. Despite this, they share the same letters. So no GLO is identical nationally, we're all made of a mix of women.
If someone's life long goal is to be an XYZ, then she shouldn't go to a campus w/o XYZ. If her goal is to join a sorority, then she will find plenty of options on campus. The number of women who don't join a sorority because the "right one" isn't on campus is tiny.
The system keeps us on relatively equal footing and keeps a system from expanding too fast and then collapsing underneath itself.
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09-13-2006, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
My translator broke and I can't even begin to understand your post. To summarize: GLOs are made up or women on campus. On one campus they could be the "smart brunettes" on another the "Barbies" etc. Despite this, they share the same letters. So no GLO is identical nationally, we're all made of a mix of women.
If someone's life long goal is to be an XYZ, then she shouldn't go to a campus w/o XYZ. If her goal is to join a sorority, then she will find plenty of options on campus. The number of women who don't join a sorority because the "right one" isn't on campus is tiny.
The system keeps us on relatively equal footing and keeps a system from expanding too fast and then collapsing underneath itself.
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It is a shame that you cannot understand plain English and not Earp Speak.
I asked a simple question and get a two step instead. I explained my position very plainly and do not feel it is necessary for a "We" keep on and even footing when it is not true in many cases.
If Women are not happy with either the Chapters and or the woment in them, then, where do they go?
Oh, GDI=not affilated in any form.
So I guess my next question is who does this help, You or them?
In any parlie, GLO just means Greek Letter Organization, not different between Mal or Female.
Correct?
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09-13-2006, 06:34 PM
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It is a shame that you cannot understand plain English and not Earp Speak.
I asked a simple question and get a two step instead. I explained my position very plainly and do not feel it is necessary for a "We" keep on and even footing when it is not true in many cases.
If Women are not happy with either the Chapters and or the woment in them, then, where do they go?
Oh, GDI=not affilated in any form.
So I guess my next question is who does this help, You or them?
In any parlie, GLO just means Greek Letter Organization, not different between Mal or Female.
Correct?
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Plain english, I get; YOU are unintelligible.
Not everyone is cut out for Greek Life. I'm not going to cry if every woman doesn't get a bid someplace, because it is simply not ever going to happen. Many think that if they brought a new sorority to campus, they'd get a bid. This is not necessarily the case. (This happened on my campus, the interest group failed)
Bringing all 26 sororities to every campus would not guarantee a home for everyone.
We would, as AnchorAlumna put it, cut each other to ribbons. The formality of it it all keeps us at least civil if not friendly.
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09-13-2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
I have asked this many times.
When a State Un. had 6500 + Students then there is/are Women there to join if they desire and dont, then where is the problem?
There may be Sororitys that some heart for or hear of and they are not there and are limited to who they may choose from brings me to the conclusion that maybe there is a lacking some where?
If the choices are not there for them, then why join if they do not like the women in those GLOs?
Most State Schools are not emuried with Greeks as some of the Big Southern or Major Uns., but what does one do to find friendship if not a member of a small and select few?
Dont each GLO attempt to recruit those who are like themselves?
What if other women do not like or feel like they want to be a part of them for what ever reason?
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Tom, I suggest you re-read before you post. "There may be Sororitys that some heart for or hear of" - ????? "emuried" - ????
Face it...men and women do things differently. The reason we have the highly structured rush is because we would slice each other to ribbons if we didn't. That's why the NPC was formed.
Different means different. Not better.
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11-09-2006, 03:32 PM
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Sorority Expansion Opportunity at Texas Christian
Panhellenic at Texas Christian U. ("TCU") has voted (9-1) for expansion. The student paper's November 9 '06 issue has an article giving an overview of the basics of the usual NPC expansion process and some indications of a possible timeline:
http://www.tcudailyskiff.com/media/s...dailyskiff.com
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11-09-2006, 04:28 PM
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Sorority Expansion Opportunity at Texas Christian
Panhellenic at Texas Christian U. ("TCU") has voted (9-1) for expansion. The student paper's November 9 '06 issue has an article giving an overview of the basics of the usual NPC expansion process and some indications of a possible timeline:
http://www.tcudailyskiff.com/media/s...dailyskiff.com
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I'm right here in town and I did not know this!! I wonder if Alpha Gam or Alpha Phi might re-colonize. I'm pretty sure they both had a TCU chapter at one time.
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11-10-2006, 01:03 PM
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I'm right here in town and I did not know this!! I wonder if Alpha Gam or Alpha Phi might re-colonize. I'm pretty sure they both had a TCU chapter at one time.
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I think Kappa Delta also had a chapter there.
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11-14-2006, 06:37 PM
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The University of Maryland, College Park is considering the possibility of extension. I am on the newly formed extension exploration committee. The Panhellenic President says that the delegates will probably be able to vote on whether we will open for extension by March.
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