Expansions for 2006/2007

[Sailboat Sis]

I believe UNC is up to 21 fraternities that are IFC, plus two that are in the process of recolonizing. While some houses are doing very well for themselves, other houses are struggling. I do not think expanding, in terms of the number of houses, will do anything beneficial for those that need more members. The current policies make it too easy to add more chapters to our campus, whereas they should be structured like Panhel's where a house has to join through hoops to return/colonize. I also take issue the disportionate number of fraternities to sororities... and that when we have mixers, the ratio is probably 2.5 girls to 1 boy.

[33girl]

SailboatSis,

I don't think you're going to get anywhere on this one. Boys are different.

Just have mixers with 2 fraternities at once.

[Buttonz]

As it was said already, we are colonizing at Pace and at Nova Southeastern in FL

[Tom Earp]

Mabe Sororitys should take a lesson from Fraternitys and look into expansion that is so structured that it may keep girls from joining existing houses.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Sailboat Sis

I also take issue the disportionate number of fraternities to sororities... and that when we have mixers, the ratio is probably 2.5 girls to 1 boy.

And this is a bad thing?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by TSteven

And this is a bad thing?

Hey, us girls prefer it to be a bit more the other way. That said we had plenty of socals with 3 small fraternities to our 1 sorority. That was fun to..

Tom: NPC expansion WORKS for the vast majority of cases. Women who choose not to join existing GLOs do not tend to do so because of the GLO in question, but because of the women in the GLOs. Those women would be the same no matter the letters because they're all coming from the university.

[Tom Earp]

Tom: NPC expansion WORKS for the vast majority of cases. Women who choose not to join existing GLOs do not tend to do so because of the GLO in question, but because of the women in the GLOs. Those women would be the same no matter the letters because they're all coming from the university.[/QUOTE]


Hm, while an interesting point, the smaller amount of GLOs to choose from narrows down the selection process for the PNMs doesnt it?

If let us say, that PNMs are looking for a certain GLO and it is not there, they do not want to join or they do not like the women in the existing GLOs, then where do they go (?), No where and do not join any GLO.

As said in another Thread about Affiliation and Transfering, that is to me wrong. It is used as a stepping stone and will not work out as each chapter is a different entity while the same so to speak.

To be a happy Sister or Brother, it has to work both ways for both parties.

How many Alums have been lost because they joined just to join and say I was a so and so member of ABC.

Expansion needs to be strongly considered in many ways, but not well, None are making numbers!

The question should be, why are they not making numbers? Where is the problem?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Hm, while an interesting point, the smaller amount of GLOs to choose from narrows down the selection process for the PNMs doesnt it?

If let us say, that PNMs are looking for a certain GLO and it is not there, they do not want to join or they do not like the women in the existing GLOs, then where do they go (?), No where and do not join any GLO.

As said in another Thread about Affiliation and Transfering, that is to me wrong. It is used as a stepping stone and will not work out as each chapter is a different entity while the same so to speak.

To be a happy Sister or Brother, it has to work both ways for both parties.

How many Alums have been lost because they joined just to join and say I was a so and so member of ABC.

Expansion needs to be strongly considered in many ways, but not well, None are making numbers!

The question should be, why are they not making numbers? Where is the problem?

If there are not enough women to fill up all of the chapters on campus, there does not need to be another chapter on campus.

If one chapter is failing, it will close and open up the opportunity for another chapter.

If all 26 NPC sororities were on every campus, there would be a few with 100 members and a few with 2. The small ones cannot function this way, much less run a house.

Going Greek is great. For women who drop because they don't like the letters they're doing it to themselves. For women who drop because they couldn't find a fit, it has more to do with the entire Greek culture of that campus then whether or not XYZ was there.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

If there are not enough women to fill up all of the chapters on campus, there does not need to be another chapter on campus.

If one chapter is failing, it will close and open up the opportunity for another chapter.

If all 26 NPC sororities were on every campus, there would be a few with 100 members and a few with 2. The small ones cannot function this way, much less run a house.

Going Greek is great. For women who drop because they don't like the letters they're doing it to themselves. For women who drop because they couldn't find a fit, it has more to do with the entire Greek culture of that campus then whether or not XYZ was there.

I have asked this many times.

When a State Un. had 6500 + Students then there is/are Women there to join if they desire and dont, then where is the problem?

There may be Sororitys that some heart for or hear of and they are not there and are limited to who they may choose from brings me to the conclusion that maybe there is a lacking some where?

If the choices are not there for them, then why join if they do not like the women in those GLOs?

Most State Schools are not emuried with Greeks as some of the Big Southern or Major Uns., but what does one do to find friendship if not a member of a small and select few?

Dont each GLO attempt to recruit those who are like themselves?

What if other women do not like or feel like they want to be a part of them for what ever reason?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

I have asked this many times.

When a State Un. had 6500 + Students then there is/are Women there to join if they desire and dont, then where is the problem?

There may be Sororitys that some heart for or hear of and they are not there and are limited to who they may choose from brings me to the conclusion that maybe there is a lacking some where?

If the choices are not there for them, then why join if they do not like the women in those GLOs?

Most State Schools are not emuried with Greeks as some of the Big Southern or Major Uns., but what does one do to find friendship if not a member of a small and select few?

Dont each GLO attempt to recruit those who are like themselves?

What if other women do not like or feel like they want to be a part of them for what ever reason?

My translator broke and I can't even begin to understand your post. To summarize: GLOs are made up or women on campus. On one campus they could be the "smart brunettes" on another the "Barbies" etc. Despite this, they share the same letters. So no GLO is identical nationally, we're all made of a mix of women.

If someone's life long goal is to be an XYZ, then she shouldn't go to a campus w/o XYZ. If her goal is to join a sorority, then she will find plenty of options on campus. The number of women who don't join a sorority because the "right one" isn't on campus is tiny.

The system keeps us on relatively equal footing and keeps a system from expanding too fast and then collapsing underneath itself.

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

I have asked this many times.

When a State Un. had 6500 + Students then there is/are Women there to join if they desire and dont, then where is the problem?

There may be Sororitys that some heart for or hear of and they are not there and are limited to who they may choose from brings me to the conclusion that maybe there is a lacking some where?

If the choices are not there for them, then why join if they do not like the women in those GLOs?

Most State Schools are not emuried with Greeks as some of the Big Southern or Major Uns., but what does one do to find friendship if not a member of a small and select few?

Dont each GLO attempt to recruit those who are like themselves?

What if other women do not like or feel like they want to be a part of them for what ever reason?

Tom, I suggest you re-read before you post. "There may be Sororitys that some heart for or hear of" - ????? "emuried" - ????
Face it...men and women do things differently. The reason we have the highly structured rush is because we would slice each other to ribbons if we didn't. That's why the NPC was formed.
Different means different. Not better.

[WCUgirl]

Originally Posted by TSteven

And this is a bad thing?

Muah! This is coming from a boy, no less.

Back to the topic at hand...I heard Alpha Phi will be recolonizing at UNC-Wilmington in a few weeks.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by AXiD670

Muah! This is coming from a boy, no less.

Back to the topic at hand...I heard Alpha Phi will be recolonizing at UNC-Wilmington in a few weeks.

Alpha Phi is recolonizing at the University of Oklahoma as well.

[lauralaylin]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Alpha Phi is recolonizing at the University of Oklahoma as well.

And at Dartmouth too.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Sailboat Sis

... and that when we have mixers, the ratio is probably 2.5 girls to 1 boy.

what's wrong with that? are you afraid of competetion?