NFL Hazing

jon1856 · #1 08-25-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

This is ridiculous, who cares. These are adults. LIKE THE ONES IN MY FRATERNITY. Holy crap, when is it politically correct to stop coddling people and let them make their own decisions?

I just about, kind of agree with what you wrote BUT for: "LIKE THE ONES IN MY FRATERNITY {Chapter House}"

shinerbock · #2 08-25-2006, 05:43 PM

College students are adults.

Tom Earp · #3 08-25-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

College students are adults.

Who says, the College Students/Kids?

First time away from Mommy and Daddy and go nuts?

If one is hazed, then He feels that it is right to continue the same rite!

WOW, makes no sense to me in todays PC world with RM in all factions of Greek Life.

shinerbock · #4 08-25-2006, 05:53 PM

I have no idea what you said. However, they're 18. Its time to grow up. Its harder to grow up when other people are telling you what to do. Sink or swim.

Tom Earp · #5 08-25-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

I have no idea what you said. However, they're 18. Its time to grow up. Its harder to grow up when other people are telling you what to do. Sink or swim.

Hell, I understand cannot YOU?

Sink or swim?

Kids while 18-19 are still Kids away from home for the first time on their own.

"Damn", I have to make up My own mind! "Damn", I really have never done this before without their help, what do I do now?

Sink or swim, many sink!

LPIDelta · #6 08-25-2006, 06:53 PM

While I agree it may not be fair to describe this as a "Beta" house activity solely, I wonder--why wouldn't someone associate hazing with fraternities? Greeks, despite the laws, are still hazing, and we have people like shiner and others on this board that promote hazing as a part of Greek life. OF COURSE THEY ARE GOING TO ASSOCIATE THOSE ACTIONS because there are not enough people standing up to state loudly that we don't want that as part of our system.

If you don't like the reference of hazing and fraternities--do something about it.

Editted because of a pesky double negative and bad spelling

shinerbock · #7 08-25-2006, 07:09 PM

18 and 19 year olds are immature because society babies them. Rewind several decades and look how they were acting. There were a lot of young faces in the greatest generation...I wonder why? Because we allowed them to be responsible for themselves.

macallan25 · #8 08-25-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Who says, the College Students/Kids?

First time away from Mommy and Daddy and go nuts?

If one is hazed, then He feels that it is right to continue the same rite!

WOW, makes no sense to me in todays PC world with RM in all factions of Greek Life.

"Nowhere in your incoherent ramblings....did you come close to anything that could be considered rational thought......" - Billy Madison

Prunetacos · #9 08-25-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

College students are adults.

Then where did the terms "Sorority Girls" and "Frat Boys" come from? Non-Greeks wouldn't have been smart enough to come up with them. They'd have been too busy scrubbing johns and mopping floors or - in my case - stocking shelves and making burgers.
- Prunetacos

jon1856 · #10 08-25-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

College students are adults.

Very young, very impressionable, and at times very blinded and short sighted.
Willing to take long walks off of very short docks....

And in the case of this thread, not well paid, professional athlites with trainers on field, and player contracts and league contracts.

In other words, those words, that phrase had nothing to do with this thread at all.

macallan25 · #11 08-25-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

And in the case of this thread, not well paid, professional athlites with trainers on field, and player contracts and league contracts.

Plenty of college students are well paid.

jon1856 · #12 08-25-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Plenty of college students are well paid.

Nice cut and paste-however you missed the full phase.

And one could start threads on the graduation rates of schools in general and then the student/athlets %.

So sad that many do not have degress and that their professional careers can only last a few years. We see the "stars" with these "long" 10, 15, even 20 year careers but you do not see the ones that are only there for a year or two... but we just fell well out of this thread.....should be over in a sports thread.....

Getting back to thread, while I was checking out hazing laws, all seemed to be written for schools, not business.

If that is the case, one would have to see what league rules, union rules and players contract say.

And that could be one major difference. Not sure if OSHA has any say in this matter. As for labor laws, well see above.

Not that hazing is a good thing.

macallan25 · #13 08-25-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

Nice cut and paste-however you missed the full phase.

No, I read the full phrase...You said unlike college students....Professional athletes are well paid...................................."

I understood what you were sayinng.

jon1856 · #14 08-26-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

No, I read the full phrase...You said unlike college students....Professional athletes are well paid...................................."

I understood what you were sayinng.

If you had, would not have cut to fit your beliefs.
Which as we know full well are not mine.

jon1856 · #15 08-26-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Plenty of college students are well paid.

Wish I had my current Newsweek with me.
Have to wonder how many of those students are on work/study programs or aid programs.
And how many call Mom and Dad.....that is not in Newsday as far as I know...
Mac-is Newsweek ok with you as a source?