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08-21-2006, 05:36 PM
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It depends on what is being done, hazing wise. You might be right about the costs for new members and how it may be a deterrent......but I really can't comment on that because paying dues.....no matter the cost is really not a big deal for my family.
I'll go back to my school to support athletics and for any huge SAE events that they may have in Austin.....such as founders day. I'll support UT much more from a standpoint of being in the Texas Exes Alumni Association than I will from being an SAE. Yeah, i'll make yearly donations to the chapter and i'll go to tailgates with other Alumni and my pledge brothers......but to be honest.......when I am middle aged and have a career.....being in a fraternity isn't going to be the highlight of my life or something that I make a point to really keep up with....aside from the activities that I mentioned. There comes a time when you need to move on. Every man in my family is Greek.....and they all have felt the same way.
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08-22-2006, 12:49 AM
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Tom,
I'll go back with hopes of seeing my friends and fraternity brothers, but my loyalty to my school exceeds that which I have towards my national fraternity.
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08-22-2006, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
Tom,
I'll go back with hopes of seeing my friends and fraternity brothers, but my loyalty to my school exceeds that which I have towards my national fraternity.
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Shiner-It took me years before I placed my school at an even level with my Greek life. Perhaps due to the anti-Greek Admin when I first started-now very different. To each their own.......
http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...=1&intbucketid=
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08-22-2006, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
Tom,
I'll go back with hopes of seeing my friends and fraternity brothers, but my loyalty to my school exceeds that which I have towards my national fraternity.
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That is an intersting perspetive.
Your School Letters mean more to You than Your Brothers of Your Chapter or Fraternity? 
If My Chapter was not there, I would never go back!
It is also one of the strongest Schools in it's Division. 
But, if I go back to all of the games who in the heck would I know?
Who would I tailgate with and talk to?
I go back and do all of the above with My Brothers!
Oh, I also go back over to Arrrowhead, Home of KC Cheifs for the Fall Classic of The Pitt and NWMoUn.
How many Div. schools like mine play in NFL Stadiums? 
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08-22-2006, 09:42 PM
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Tom, notice I said national fraternity. If for some reason I ever had to make a choice between my chapter and my school, I guess I'd pick my chapter, but that would never happen as the two are so deeply intertwined. Supporting Auburn is basically one of our central core values, and I think I speak for everyone in my chapter in that I'd side with Auburn before my national HQ. Its tough to describe.
As to Jon, I'm not sure what "UG" is but I go to UGA, yes. I didn't graduate from here however.
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08-22-2006, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
Tom, notice I said national fraternity. If for some reason I ever had to make a choice between my chapter and my school, I guess I'd pick my chapter, but that would never happen as the two are so deeply intertwined. Supporting Auburn is basically one of our central core values, and I think I speak for everyone in my chapter in that I'd side with Auburn before my national HQ. Its tough to describe.
As to Jon, I'm not sure what "UG" is but I go to UGA, yes. I didn't graduate from here however.
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Thank you Shiner I corrected my slight spelling error.
Not sure just what to make of "....but I go to UGA, yes. I didn't graduate from here however".
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08-22-2006, 10:39 PM
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Well, you implied that I had graduated from UGA, which I havent. At least thats how it sounded to me.
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08-22-2006, 03:24 PM
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If you are questioning the academic integrity of the University of Texas.....then you must be severely out of the loop.
According to US News:
1.) Top 15 ranked Engineering School, (Number 1 in Petroleum Engineering)
2.) Top 15 Law School
3.) Top 20 Medical School
4.) Top 20 Business School
5.) Top 50 National University (America's Best Colleges)
The incident with SAE a couple years back, while none of your concern, was dealt with fairly easily, with little problems. Don't go by what you read on a website....thats all I am going to say.
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08-22-2006, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by macallan25
If you are questioning the academic integrity of the University of Texas.....then you must be severely out of the loop.
According to US News:
1.) Top 15 ranked Engineering School, (Number 1 in Petroleum Engineering)
2.) Top 15 Law School
3.) Top 20 Medical School
4.) Top 20 Business School
5.) Top 50 National University (America's Best Colleges)
The incident with SAE a couple years back, while none of your concern, was dealt with fairly easily, with little problems. Don't go by what you read on a website....thats all I am going to say.
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"That web site" is an official UT page. Which is one of the reasons I asked you to explain your side of the story.
And we all are products of our life experiences. Our beliefs, our opinions, our actions et al.
If one looks at posting in GC, one can break down into almost two groups what kind of Greek life each poster had.
And yes, Greek life and the rest of School exprerinces are only part of one's life.
And your list is mostly about the Grad schools, which are a bit different from under grad.......
And to be fair here is the link for my school:
http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...1023493<ID=1
BTB: Back in the day, UPS was listed in the top ten ( IIRC top five ) party schools by either Playboy or Esquire Mags.
Things change and evolve....as do people....life experience......
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08-22-2006, 05:23 PM
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Are you kidding me man? Read number 5 please. Hell, look it up. The University of Texas...is a Top 50 National University and has been in the top 50 pretty much every year on the list of America's Best Colleges. Yes, the grad school is phenomenal......so is the undergrad...which is why I posted the overall school ranking at the end of the list.
I really can't believe you are still trying to present some kind of argument.
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08-22-2006, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by macallan25
Are you kidding me man? Read number 5 please. Hell, look it up. The University of Texas...is a Top 50 National University and has been in the top 50 pretty much every year on the list of America's Best Colleges. Yes, the grad school is phenomenal......so is the undergrad...which is why I posted the overall school ranking at the end of the list.
I really can't believe you are still trying to present some kind of argument.
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I don't see him questioning the academics of UTexas. He did ask what your version of the events surrounding your chapter being put on suspension by the university.
If so, just what happened from your side?
You have stated that "nothing really happened". He and others are curious to your chapters version of the events. Plain and simple.
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08-22-2006, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by macallan25
Are you kidding me man? Read number 5 please. Hell, look it up.The University of Texas is a Top 50 National University and has been in the top 50 pretty much every year on the list of America's Best Colleges. Yes, the grad school is phenomenal......so is the undergrad...which is why I posted the overall school ranking at the end of the list.
I really can't believe you are still trying to present some kind of argument.
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Hummmm-A story from US News mostly about Grad schools vs an offical UT school web site and http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...s/rankings.asp
http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...ankingsFAQ.asp
http://www.princetonreview.com/colle...nkingspr07.asp
on Under-grad schools.
Which is what this thread and most of GC is all about.
And just in from FOX News:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209656,00.html
"It contrasts with U.S. News and World Report's annual guide to "America's Best Colleges," where UT-Austin tied with four other schools in 47th place."
"Despite those efforts, a freshman died of acute alcohol poisoning in December as a result of fraternity hazing.
Tests showed Phanta "Jack" Phoummarath's blood alcohol level was 0.50 percent, more than six times the legal limit. University officials canceled Lambda Phi Epsilon's status as a registered student organization until 2011 after an investigation found new members were expected to drink large amounts of liquor."
http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/waterc...?storyid=69676
But Brother, you at least represent yourself.
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08-22-2006, 11:18 PM
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What are you trying to prove? I really don't understand you. Are you trying to discredit the rankings of the university because a kid died?
Texas is a Top 50 National University. It has been for quite a while. Grad School....I would say Top 20.
Again, what is your point with all of these Princeton Review party, drug, alcohol statistics.
Frankly, I think US News is a much more reliable source....but whatever floats your boat.
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08-22-2006, 09:49 PM
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Does anyone there get an education? LOL ;>D
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Be kind. My alma mater is on four of those six.
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